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I was on the first 40 bus not to be allowed down the hill to Denmark Hill station at 8.15. The driver had no idea he was on diversion til I pointed out the bollards they had put down blocking the road and he contacted the depot. None of the bus stops on the way down to DH station had any bus stop closed signed on them. I told anyone waiting that there were no buses. Great time to start resurfacing during a Monday morning rush hour when train strike is on!

If you look on the TFL Traffic Status Updates website, these works still don't show up, but oddly enough they do if you change the date to 14 March 2017 (even though the start date of the works in the detail below is 13 March).


According to the site, these are not TFL works but "Borough" works, so presumably Southwark?:



From: Monday 13 March 2017

To: Thursday 16 March 2017

Last updated 13:40 Thursday 23 February 2017

Works | Borough


[A2216] Grove Lane (SE5) (Both Directions) at the junction of Champion Grove - Daily two-way temporary traffic lights and single alternate traffic in operation to facilitate resurfacing works (08:00 to 17:00).


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Champion Grove (SE5) (All Directions)

[A2216] Grove Lane (SE5) (Both Directions)

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