Plastic bags

[SeanMacGabhann]

I'd still rather the pilot made the attempt to land (as so many do) - rather than be accused of smug for even trying

[indiepanda]

SeanMacGabhann Wrote:

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> I'd still rather the pilot made the attempt to

> land (as so many do) - rather than be accused of

> smug for even trying

Reckon the people on board that plane that managed to land on the Hudson river after the engines were taken out by geese would agree with you!

[????]

Yeah, but recycling one's bags, whilst otherwise engaging in modern consumerist lifestyles is hardly us all trying to land the plane is it?

[RosieH]

It's like praying while the plane goes down.

[Narnia]

I think you should listen to the polar bears.

[SeanMacGabhann]

Berating governments trying to get stuff done which will be unpopular with voters is even less so I would say

It's very easy tho

[SeanMacGabhann]

;-)

Well if no pilot had ever landed a plane successfully, then yes, it would be like praying

As it is it's more like assessing the risk and maximising possible positive outcomes

It's not really a debate about plastic bags or NOTHING. It's a thread about a petulant customer who didn't get treated the way they expect and bleating about it instead of manning up and dealing with it

[RosieH]

Hahahahaha.

Oh I do make myself laugh.

[RosieH]

Oh and yes, you're spot on about the OP.

[????]

I think the no bag policy is great when it's in force by big brother I will be doing all my local shopping by car so not have to lug crap about

[legalbeagle]

Oh good lordy, not this again! What can I say. Some of you like us, and some of you don't. DaveR, I guess since you don't shop with us, and you now never will, there's not much point in me trying to persuade you otherwise. I'm always sad when I have to say that, but I guess you can't please everyone all of the time. (Though I will happily engage with you via PM if you want to tell me if there are ways we could improve to persuade you otherwise). We don't waim to patronise or to be self righteous, but I do have to accept that we aren't everyone's cup of tea.

To others who've shown continuous support, thank you. It's always good to read that we get it right for some of you.

But just one last word if I might. The truth is that the no bag policy is not for the purposes of marketing to green-lite or liberal customers, whatever that might mean. It is not to be self-righteous or to patronise. The policy exists because one of the owners of G&B, the writer of the blog, genuinely feels very passionately about this subject, and always has. It is of course possible to pick holes in this passion. Yes she also drives a car, and yes she has travelled by plane. The truth, which we all know really, is that we can't do anything about everything. But rightly or wrongly, some of us have particular causes that we DO do something about, because we think that something is better than nothing, or because it touches us for whatever reason, or just because we want to and we can. Some people campaign for animal rights. Some raise money for local lifeboats. Some give regularly to cancer research charities. And some feel certain environmental issues very keenly and take steps to reduce the environmental impact that they or their business might otherwise have. And there is it. And I simply won't apologise for the person who holds that view. It's genuinely held and seriously meant and she has every right to stick by it.

The good thing though is that the OP was privately very thoughtful and gracious in agreeing to move on from this and held no hard feelings. And we are the same. Perhaps some of you haven't read the blog on this happy ending.

[Huguenot]

Good heavens!

Italy have banned plastic shopping bags!

But what is disturbing is the revelation that pre-ban, Italy was responsible for 20% of the whole EU plastic bag consumption...

Anyone who's been to the beach recently will tell you that plastic bag-related waste isn't just a CO2 issue. People who push back on plastic bag restrictions try and make it just about CO2 because it's an argument they think they can win.

[karter]

How long do you get banged up for in Singapore after asking for a plastic bag?

I was in a supermarket here in italy yesterday and they were giving out bags. It doesn't have to be all about Plastic

[Huguenot]

Singapore are plastic bag happy, and offer next to no recycling services for anything else either.

When you go to Cold Storage (Waitrose) they'll put each item in its own plastic bag, and then put all the plastic bags into another couple of plastic bags for good measure.

When I rock up with my eco-friendly jute carrier they look at me as if I'm insane.