dbboy Posted April 6, 2017 Share Posted April 6, 2017 Freedom of Speech Rights - Freedom of speech and expression are recognised under the European Convention of Human Rights as fundamental human rights. In Britain these rights can be found as early as 1215 in the Magna Carter.Everyone has the right to freedom of speech and expression, and has the right to voice their opinions and to freely receive and give out information. Prior to the Human Rights Act, the freedom of expression was permitted as long as the law did not prevent it. But the Human Rights Act now guarantees under the law the rights to freedom of speech and expression.The Fundamental Right - Freedom of speech and expression are extremely important rights; in Britain we have the right to express ourselves without persecution from others. The right to freedom of speech and expression is the BUILDING BLOCK OF OUR SOCIETY. Anyone has the right to express themselves freely without fear of punishment from the government of from other individuals.The UK is NOT nor has it ever been a dictatorship. Dictatorship's include North Korea and China. Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/148344-freedom-of-speech-and-expression/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
IlonaM Posted April 6, 2017 Share Posted April 6, 2017 Freedom of Speech is not an absolute right under the Convention & UK law, it is a qualified right which is why it is drafted in the way it is. Hate speech is not protected, for example. For further info and clarification Liberty does a briefing sheet:https://www.liberty-human-rights.org.uk/human-rights/what-are-human-rights/human-rights-act/article-10-freedom-expressionThe Council of Europe also has published very good guides on Art 10. Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/148344-freedom-of-speech-and-expression/#findComment-1122743 Share on other sites More sharing options...
KidKruger Posted April 6, 2017 Share Posted April 6, 2017 Dictatorships (no apostrophe necessary, see) Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/148344-freedom-of-speech-and-expression/#findComment-1122771 Share on other sites More sharing options...
dbboy Posted April 6, 2017 Author Share Posted April 6, 2017 Someone's been listening to Radio 4 in the morning as well I see, the punctuation police are out in force tonight on EDF Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/148344-freedom-of-speech-and-expression/#findComment-1122787 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Loz Posted April 6, 2017 Share Posted April 6, 2017 ?If we don't believe in freedom of expression for people we despise, we don't believe in it at all.?― Noam Chomsky Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/148344-freedom-of-speech-and-expression/#findComment-1122788 Share on other sites More sharing options...
ianr Posted April 6, 2017 Share Posted April 6, 2017 http://www.civilrightsmovement.co.uk/IPCopyrightNotice.htmlhttp://www.civilrightsmovement.co.uk/right-freedom-speech.html Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/148344-freedom-of-speech-and-expression/#findComment-1122790 Share on other sites More sharing options...
dbboy Posted April 6, 2017 Author Share Posted April 6, 2017 Those in the shadows want to silence the freedom of speech and expression. Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/148344-freedom-of-speech-and-expression/#findComment-1122792 Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheCat Posted April 6, 2017 Share Posted April 6, 2017 The left has been a dictatorship for many years.....'liberals' are the most judgemental.... Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/148344-freedom-of-speech-and-expression/#findComment-1122795 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seabag Posted April 6, 2017 Share Posted April 6, 2017 TheCat Wrote:-------------------------------------------------------> The left has been a dictatorship for many> years.....'liberals' are the most judgemental....You're a Liberal. Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/148344-freedom-of-speech-and-expression/#findComment-1122796 Share on other sites More sharing options...
red devil Posted April 7, 2017 Share Posted April 7, 2017 Interesting how 'liberal' has become a catch-all put down. Back in the day it would be 'Commie' or 'Trot', then in more recent times 'Lefty'. Even our very own Louisa is using 'social democrat' as a put down :) ... Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/148344-freedom-of-speech-and-expression/#findComment-1122851 Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnL Posted April 7, 2017 Share Posted April 7, 2017 IlonaM Wrote:-------------------------------------------------------> Freedom of Speech is not an absolute right under> the Convention & UK law, it is a qualified right> which is why it is drafted in the way it is. Hate> speech is not protected, for example. For further> info and clarification Liberty does a briefing> sheet:> > https://www.liberty-human-rights.org.uk/human-righ> ts/what-are-human-rights/human-rights-act/article-> 10-freedom-expression> > The Council of Europe also has published very good> guides on Art 10.Measures can be taken to limit freedom of expression in the interests of the following:..(3) The protection of health and morals;..This is based on what 'ordinary decent-minded people' would think.it seems, so what happens if public opinion becomes radicalised (byposters on the side of buses for instance). Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/148344-freedom-of-speech-and-expression/#findComment-1122855 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Loz Posted April 7, 2017 Share Posted April 7, 2017 red devil Wrote:-------------------------------------------------------> Interesting how 'liberal' has become a catch-all put down. Back in the day it would be 'Commie' or> 'Trot', then in more recent times 'Lefty'. Even our very own Louisa is using 'social democrat' as> a put down :) ...I blame the Americans - they've been so very confused about the difference between 'left' and 'liberal' for decades. Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/148344-freedom-of-speech-and-expression/#findComment-1122885 Share on other sites More sharing options...
red devil Posted April 7, 2017 Share Posted April 7, 2017 Bring back Pinko!... Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/148344-freedom-of-speech-and-expression/#findComment-1122896 Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnL Posted April 7, 2017 Share Posted April 7, 2017 Loz Wrote:-------------------------------------------------------> red devil Wrote:> --------------------------------------------------> -----> > Interesting how 'liberal' has become a catch-all> put down. Back in the day it would be 'Commie' or> > 'Trot', then in more recent times 'Lefty'. Even> our very own Louisa is using 'social democrat' as> > a put down :) ...> > I blame the Americans - they've been so very> confused about the difference between 'left' and> 'liberal' for decades.I hate LibtardBut someone of that name now follows me on twitter so the liberals are 'taking it back' :) Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/148344-freedom-of-speech-and-expression/#findComment-1122913 Share on other sites More sharing options...
uncleglen Posted April 7, 2017 Share Posted April 7, 2017 It's a good idea to have absolute Freedom of Speech and Expression Ephesians 6: vs 11-12 Know Thy Enemy etc.....JohnL libturd is THE word now Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/148344-freedom-of-speech-and-expression/#findComment-1122919 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Earl Aelfheah Posted April 7, 2017 Share Posted April 7, 2017 What is the point of the OP? Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/148344-freedom-of-speech-and-expression/#findComment-1122921 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Earl Aelfheah Posted April 7, 2017 Share Posted April 7, 2017 red devil Wrote:-------------------------------------------------------> Interesting how 'liberal' has become a catch-all> put down. Back in the day it would be 'Commie' or> 'Trot', then in more recent times 'Lefty'. Even> our very own Louisa is using 'social democrat' as> a put down :) ...Yes, it's terrible to believe in liberty. Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/148344-freedom-of-speech-and-expression/#findComment-1122923 Share on other sites More sharing options...
red devil Posted April 7, 2017 Share Posted April 7, 2017 uncleglen Wrote:-------------------------------------------------------> JohnL libturd is THE word nowThat's the danger of inhabiting chat forums/comments pages of the 'alt-right', you're likely to be reading the 'witticisms' of a bloke still living at home with his parents whilst waiting for his balls to drop... Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/148344-freedom-of-speech-and-expression/#findComment-1122929 Share on other sites More sharing options...
red devil Posted April 7, 2017 Share Posted April 7, 2017 rahrahrah Wrote:-------------------------------------------------------> What is the point of the OP?Something to do with Ken Livingstone?... Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/148344-freedom-of-speech-and-expression/#findComment-1122931 Share on other sites More sharing options...
???? Posted April 7, 2017 Share Posted April 7, 2017 red devil Wrote:-------------------------------------------------------> Interesting how 'liberal' has become a catch-all> put down. Back in the day it would be 'Commie' or> 'Trot', then in more recent times 'Lefty'. Even> our very own Louisa is using 'social democrat' as> a put down :) ...It's the internet isn't it becuase in the US liberal means something else to here and not lefty. It's a bit laughable that the left over here think themselves as liberal when on many things many of them are not. I'm proudly a liberal BTW its 'the liberals' i can't stand :) Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/148344-freedom-of-speech-and-expression/#findComment-1122938 Share on other sites More sharing options...
dbboy Posted April 7, 2017 Author Share Posted April 7, 2017 In biblical times the Romans wanted to stop Jesus being able to have freedom of speech and expression, he was tried, crucified and on the third day rose from the dead to sit on the right hand of God.In the second world war 3+M Jews were slaughtered because the state did not wish them to be free or have freedom of expression or speechJohn F Kennedy was assassinated as was Martin Luther King because people objected to what they said and wanted to stop them.The Westminster attack tried to disrupt our freedom, people died as a result of badness (may they rest in peace), but freedom of speech and expression continues in the House of Commons as does it at Speakers Corner. Darcus Howe stood for many things, but I'd say Freedom of speech and expression was one.Remember that freedom of speech and expression are the building blocks upon which society is built as is our democracy, without these we do not have a society. Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/148344-freedom-of-speech-and-expression/#findComment-1122949 Share on other sites More sharing options...
alice Posted April 7, 2017 Share Posted April 7, 2017 shut the fuck up you cuntjust testing. Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/148344-freedom-of-speech-and-expression/#findComment-1122960 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Earl Aelfheah Posted April 7, 2017 Share Posted April 7, 2017 What the point of this thread? 'Freedom of speech is good'? Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/148344-freedom-of-speech-and-expression/#findComment-1122973 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Loz Posted April 7, 2017 Share Posted April 7, 2017 rahrahrah Wrote:-------------------------------------------------------> What the point of this thread? 'Freedom of speech is good'?Most people believe that. Few actually practice it. Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/148344-freedom-of-speech-and-expression/#findComment-1122974 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Earl Aelfheah Posted April 7, 2017 Share Posted April 7, 2017 This is the weirdest thread. It feels like there is something that people want to say, but aren't. Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/148344-freedom-of-speech-and-expression/#findComment-1122992 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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