Jump to content

Recommended Posts

???? Wrote:

-------------------------------------------------------

> interesting that since the recent opinion polls

> all the tinfoil hatted Canary led - "fake polls"

> "all owned by tories" garbage has disappeared off

> Social Media



The controversy IIRC was how "Don't Knows" were allocated.

Maybe "Don't Knows" are now falling.


Although 5 will probably be as close as he comes I'd think.

RE The Canary, I would encourage each of you to do a simple test. Next time you see a link to a Canary article that says something like "the story the mainstream media didn't want you to see", google the subject and I'll bet you find loads of links (usually from a couple of months before at least) from the BBC and various "mainstream" papers.


I completely agree that the Murdoch owned press is terrible right wing garbage. But I consider The Canary to be no better than Breitbart.

Winder Wrote:

-------------------------------------------------------

> Jules-and-Boo Wrote:

> --------------------------------------------------

> -----

> > Can we have our police back now please?

>

> Had the Manchester atrocity happened 3 weeks

> earlier, I wonder how many manifestos would have

> featured a cutback in the foreign aid budget to

> fund anti-terrorism at home.


I don't know whether I've always misunderstood foreign aid.


But it's there for British interests not as some gift. India asked us to stop giving aid but we refused.


"Last week India rejected the British-built Typhoon jet as preferred candidate for a ?6.3 billion warplane deal, despite the Development Secretary, Andrew Mitchell, saying that Britain?s aid to Delhi was partly ?about seeking to sell Typhoon.?"


http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/asia/india/9061844/India-tells-Britain-We-dont-want-your-aid.html

JohnL Wrote:

-------------------------------------------------------

> Corbyn has made a speech on Security - and it

> wasn't bad.

>

> The old guy thrives in this type of campaign - May

> (probably will still win) but she made a mistake

> here.


As someone who always voted (with one regrettable exception) for Labour: I believe strongly in Labour's ability to take this bump in popularity and somehow mess it all up.

Otta Wrote:

-------------------------------------------------------

> Guessing you've seen this Quids.

>

> https://www.spectator.co.uk/2017/05/this-is-the-wo

> rst-tory-election-campaign-ever/#



Thanks Otta. That says it all. Philip Collins in the Times was on a similar track today: May has been "rumbled". She is second-rate. The Tories hoped they could bounce an election victory before that became clear. And this from The Times for God's sake.


Corbyn continues to play a very good game. People will completely understand and agree with his remarks on Blair's wars today. As for defence: could someone who thinks the review of nuclear weapons that Labour promises is wrong provide me with a circumstance in which they would instruct their use? I have yet to hear any such clarification.

Borky Wrote:

-------------------------------------------------------

> rahrahrah Wrote:

> --------------------------------------------------

> -----

> > FFS. Everytime I travel to Europe, the pound

> seems

> > to drop again.

>

>

> After brexit, you will have no need to leave this

> sceptered isle - everything you will ever have

> wanted will be here.



Wot, even potatoes that taste nice?

I love how the state of the polls, yes the polls. Remember them? Have somehow managed to convince even perfectly logical forum contributors to believe that now the race has tightented. These are the same polling companies who said Cameron/Miliband were neck and neck through the last campaign, and were catastrophically wrong. The same polls predicted Clinton would win, and that Brexit wouldn't happen. Come on people. A handful of polls does not alter the fact that Labour are heading for disaster. May could stand their in a clown suit and propose a 80% tax on food, and she would still scrape home in this election. DO NOT trust the polls, in EITHER direction of travel.


Let's get this over with, and get a decent Labour leader in place so the party can rebuild itself around someone electable. For the sake of democracy, if nothing else.


Louisa.

Anyone who works for the police could have told you she was a train crash long before she became prime minister. The Fact she will still wipe the floor with Labour at this election is surely enough to tell even the most enthusiastic Corbyn supporter that their direction of travel is the wrong way. You would hope.


Louisa.

Jules-and-Boo Wrote:

-------------------------------------------------------

> what exactly is the specialism of the company

> May's husband owns? Tax avoidance?


All sorts - Mr.May works in the pensions division, which obviously benefits from the firm's overall investment strategy.


According to The Independent last year:


[Capital Group's] portfolio also includes $20 billion of shares in Amazon and Starbucks, both of which were cited by the Prime Minister-designate in her pledge to crack down on tax avoidance yesterday.


Latest filings to US authorities show that Los Angeles based Capital Group owns huge stakes in a variety of companies, including investment bank JP Morgan Chase, defence giant Lockheed Martin, tobacco company Philip Morris International, the pharmaceutical sector?s Merck & Co, and also Ryanair.


So p'raps not the most ethics-driven outfit one could imagine.

rendelharris Wrote:

-------------------------------------------------------

> Jules-and-Boo Wrote:

> --------------------------------------------------

> -----

> > what exactly is the specialism of the company

> > May's husband owns? Tax avoidance?

>

> All sorts - Mr.May works in the pensions division,

> which obviously benefits from the firm's overall

> investment strategy.

>

> According to The Independent last year:

>

> portfolio also includes $20 billion of shares in

> Amazon and Starbucks, both of which were cited by

> the Prime Minister-designate in her pledge to

> crack down on tax avoidance yesterday.

>

> Latest filings to US authorities show that Los

> Angeles based Capital Group owns huge stakes in a

> variety of companies, including investment bank JP

> Morgan Chase, defence giant Lockheed Martin,

> tobacco company Philip Morris International, the

> pharmaceutical sector?s Merck & Co, and also

> Ryanair.

>

> So p'raps not the most ethics-driven outfit one

> could imagine.


Not that I've got a brief to defend him, but global capitalism is inherently interconnected. You can't just work in the "nice department". If you're not working for Starbucks, you're certainly connected in a chain to them (or someone of equal stature) somehow.

Excellent Nick Robinson TV round table yesterday - so many people saying they'd been initially attracted to May's 'strength and stability' message, but not now. Beware the voter who has had their gullibility exposed. Also, she is now stupidly trying to re-launch her campaign with the message 'I'm the only one you can trust to get a good Brexit deal' - err, I think that is not quite any longer the perception. By the way, if her majority is less than her current one she will be 'resigned' immediately by her own (now absolutely furious) party.


So over to Paxman tomorrow to make get the truth into plain sight.

Create an account or sign in to comment

You need to be a member in order to leave a comment

Create an account

Sign up for a new account in our community. It's easy!

Register a new account

Sign in

Already have an account? Sign in here.

Sign In Now
  • Latest Discussions

    • Rant ahead: You're not one of them but unfortunately, there's a substrate of posters here that do very little except moan and come up with weird conspiracy theories. They're immediately highly critical of just about any change, and their initial assumption is that everyone else is a total fucking contemptible idiot. For example: don't you think that the people who run the libraries will have considered the impact of timing of reconstruction on library users? (In fact, we know they have - because they've made arrangements at other libraries to attempt to mitigate the disruption). After all, these are the people that spend their whole working week thinking about libraries and dealing with library users (and the kids especially). You don't go into the library game for the chicks and fame - so it's fair to assume that librarians are committed to public service and public access to libraries, including by kids. Likewise the built environment people (engineers, architects, construction managers, project managers, construction contractors, subcontractors or whoever is on this job) are told to minimise disruption on every job they do. The thing that occurs to us as amateurs within 30 seconds of us seeing something is probably not something a full time professional hasn't thought about! Southwark Council, the NHS, TfL, Dulwich Estate, Thames Water, Openreach - they're not SPECTRE factories filled with malevolent chaosmongers trying to persecute anyone. They're mostly filled with people who understand their job and try to do their best with what they've been given - just like all of us. Nobody is perfect or immune from challenge, and that's fair enough, but why not at least start from the assumption that there's a good reason why things have been done the way they have? Any normal person would be pleased that their busy, pretty, lively local library is getting refurbished, and will have more space and facilities for kids and teens, and will be more efficient to run and warmer in winter. But no, EDT_Forumite_752 had kids who did an exam 20 years ago, and this makes them an expert on library refurbishment who can see it's all just stuff and nonsense for the green agenda and why can't it all be put off... 😡😡😡
    • I completely misread the previous post, sorry. For some reason I thought the mini cooper was also a police vehicle, DUH.
    • This has given me ideas for the ginger wine I love, that no one else likes!      
Home
Events
Sign In

Sign In



Or sign in with one of these services

Search
×
    Search In
×
×
  • Create New...