Brexit View

[Angelina]

We should change our ballot papers to the usual suspects with the additional new box "EU".

So, if no one feels like voting in one of the contenders (and who does?), then we have the option to vote for the EU.

If nothing else, it might increase the skills/ talents of our wannabe MP/ PMs - which is currently embarrassing and shameful.

[diable rouge]

Good to see the Maybot maxing-out her Freedom of Movement rights before she removes them...

[JohnL]

@PMQs

"May says there is an EU council meeting, and further discussions to be held. The date of the vote will be announced in the normal way. There has been a meaningful vote. It was in 2016. And if Corbyn wants a meaningful date, she will give him one - 29 March, when the UK will leave."

She still tried to wind up remainers - that's why she'll never have my support.

[diable rouge]

So much for recent platitudes about reaching out to Remainers. I'm not sure it makes much difference whether she stays or goes, the bottom line is there's a WA that isn't going to pass thru Parly or be renegotiated on. One way or the other, the road she has been consistently kicking the can down, will run out...

[Sue]

Now what?

[New Girl]

Sue Wrote:

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> Now what?

Business as usual??

[JohnL]

She'll come back to the commons sometime before January 21st unless she can wheedle out of it.

She won't have a deal but she will have changed the words around on the current one or added a codicil

At some point Corbyn may call a vote of no confidence - if he wins there's 14 days of chaos - so the DUP could support him then renege to cause more trouble.

[diable rouge]

JohnL Wrote:

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> She'll come back to the commons sometime before

> January 21st unless she can wheedle out of it.

There's uncertainty whether this date is a political or legal deadline, if it's not the latter, then May could stall it again to get closer to the March exit date, which is a legal deadline, thus giving her leverage to force through her deal at the last minute under the threat of no deal...https://twitter.com/IanDunt/status/1073169547753127937

[Sue]

My head hurts :(

[JohnL]

Well that was the worst meeting between May and the EU yet.

They were going to add in some kind of sweetener promise but it got overruled and the EU commission has officially rated Theresa May's performance as bad (well someone has to).

It's also been confirmed that UK citizens will have to undergo ETIAS procedures to enter the EU from 2021 (papers seeing this as a ?7 charge - but I see it more as what restrictions will be implemented - will some people not even be allowed to travel to the EU).

[JohnL]

Oooh

[Monkey]

Has anyone heard of or seen Harriet Harman? Her constituents voted massively to remain and she?s completely silent...

[rendelharris]

Monkey Wrote:

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> Has anyone heard of or seen Harriet Harman? Her

> constituents voted massively to remain and she?s

> completely silent...

She spoke in the debate on the legal advice being released and accused the Attorney General of contempt. She's had plenty to say on Twitter. Just because she's not being reported much in the media, don't assume she's completely silent (I'm not a great cheerleader for her, particularly, but fair's fair).

[Monkey]

Thanks. I had completely missed that.

[JohnL]

"In recent days, Lineker has pitted himself against fellow members of the 1986 World Cup squad after the former goalkeeper Peter Shilton expressed his support for pro-Brexit Conservative MP Jacob Rees-Mogg and the forward Chris Waddle endorsed a no-deal exit."

When it gets to ex England stars fighting you have to wonder.

[JohnL]

Brexiters have no idea - the loud shouting outside parliament is pushing things the way of a peoples vote very nicely.

People do not like hooligans.

[Alan Medic]

Haven't seen it, but seems there was uproar at PMQ's in HOC as Corbyn supposedly called May a 'stupid woman'. Just needs someone to call him a stupid man and that will be more truth spoken there in a long time.

[JohnL]

The stupid woman thing is just more time wasting - it's upsetting some people it seems as we're discussing corbyn when we should be discussing how to avoid no deal.

The people outside parliament are the radical right wingers - they managed to call Kay Burley a "slag" and Faisal Islam a "Rapist".

[robbin]

Indeed, but they are morons from goodness knows where - JC is the leader of the opposition and a sitting MP, so if he uses inappropriate language he should be held more to account. The morons are not asking people to vote for them - Corbyn is. That said, based on his recent performance (or lack thereof) it almost seems like he doesn't fancy being in power!

[diable rouge]

They're just a bunch of 'Tommy wannabes', using same method of live-streaming their 'confrontations' for crowdfunding gullible alt-right loons. If Tommy can get a nice new house and flash car...

[malumbu]

Before his untimely death and his starring role with comedy duo Badiel and Skinner, Jeff Astle was one of the leading scorers in the old Division 1 (golden boot in 1970). He asked a referee once what would happen if he called him a 'b'. "why I'd send you off Mr Astle". What would happen if I thought you were a 'b'? "Well Mr Astle you can think whatever you like". "I think you a 'b', referee". Got to laugh or else you will cry. Others can 'try' Corbyn.

[diable rouge]

What have we go to worry about Brexit, we've survived worse, the sun will still shine.

Cue total chaos and millions lost in business at one of the largest airports due to a glorified toy helicopter...

[diable rouge]

Just leaving this here, courtesy of Santa Corbyn, delivered under the radar of the festive break.

Perhaps Labour supporting Remainers will now finally wake up to what Corbyn has always wanted...https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2018/dec/22/remainers-condemn-jeremy-corbyn-pledge-to-push-on-with-brexit

[Blah Blah]

Nope. I can assure you that a lot of Labour members are pretty effed off with Corbyn right now. And we don't buy his lie that he said 'people' and not 'woman' either. He just seems completely out of his depth.

[rendelharris]

diable rouge Wrote:

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> Just leaving this here, courtesy of Santa Corbyn,

> delivered under the radar of the festive break.

> Perhaps Labour supporting Remainers will now

> finally wake up to what Corbyn has always

> wanted...https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2018

> /dec/22/remainers-condemn-jeremy-corbyn-pledge-to-

> push-on-with-brexit

Yep, total last straw for me. I really, really wanted to believe in him, but no. Now what?

Oh well, here's my Christmas card for this year, and heaven help us all xxx