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JohnL Wrote:

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> robbin Wrote:

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> > JohnL Wrote:

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> As one broadcaster said yesterday this is what

> it's like to live through history and it's not

> nice.


Exactly so.

robbin Wrote:

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> I think we already know your standpoint Jen!

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> The lack of any intelligent debate on here is

> sometimes exasperating! I think I'm going to leave

> you to it, now I know your true colours...


Sorry for not being up to your standard :)


Seriously some people are claiming on twitter they've had death threats - the standard on here might be not always top of the intellectual range (some posters might be, I'm not claiming to be) - but its not that bad and it's not really nasty either.

robbin Wrote:

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> I think I'm going to leave

> you to it, now I know your true colours...


I think that's a super idea.


But seriously. You seem very emotionally affected by the vote last night. I'm surprised by that. Surely there are only two sorts of people who would find it distressing. First there are those who have a financial interest in 'No Deal' (ie they've taken a major punt on a falling pound). Secondly there are the ideologically driven Brexiters who don't understand that their beloved 'tight timetable' has been one of the major factors scuppering their project. I know you voted 'Remain', so find it odd.


I doubt you're really interested in examining the moral and past criminal records of everyone in the Commons....but we can go through them one by one if you like.

As my account has not yet been deleted, I've read your last post and can still reply, John. I quite appreciate you have not been nasty or abusive, however there's been a shift towards the lowest common denominator within a certain small group and some of the usual suspects' posts have become increasingly puerile, not to mention abusive, which is tiresome.

When it comes to securing votes in the HoC, morals go out of the window...https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2018/dec/12/tory-mps-suspended-over-sex-allegations-reinstated-for-confidence-vote

And then there's the sneaky 'double helpings in the school dinner queue' type...

Jenny1 Wrote:

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> > I think I'm going to leave

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> I think that's a super idea.

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> Not overly concerned what you think might be 'super'. I do expect you will think it is super to get closer to the point where you only have to communicate with those who share precisely the same views as you.

Well Robbin, people can, of course, have any view they like. But I will always speak out when arguments are made that discount the common good. You said you'd voted 'Remain', worked in a senior job in banking, but thought that 'No Deal' would be fine. You were quite happy to discount the views of the CBI, Bank of England, Trade Unions and BMA that 'No Deal' would be deeply damaging. I could only assume that you would be financially secure in any eventuality - and were not much concerned about what happened to other people.

I don't work in a senior job in banking (and have never said I do). Careful who you call a 'banker'!


I would have thought you could have worked out what I do for a living by now, but in any event, it is not in banking, although I do spend quite a lot of time involved with bankers and banking related matters (but that's just one business sector of several that I get involved with).


Anyhoo, without any foil to the worst excesses of scaremongering, factual misstatements and self-serving postings, you should from now on enjoy being closer to only having to read posts you agree with - happy days!

You said you were a manager in banking Robbin. From what you've just said that meant that you sometimes manage banking-related projects. But I'm sure you can see why the distinction wouldn't have been immediately obvious.


If you regard the organisations I mentioned above as 'scaremongers' then I feel sure we would never agree on anything.


As to foils to mis-statements. Don't worry. There are plenty of people here who are happy to pick each other up on inaccuracies and will continue to do so.

Again - you prove my point with a factual misstatement (which you will be able to go to town on now!).


I have NEVER said I work as a manager in banking - ever! You have dreamt that up. Trawl back as far as you want and you will not see that appearing in a single post of mine.


In keeping with someone who can be inclined to deploy a somewhat Trumpesque approach to the facts, I can't recall you ever letting the true facts get in the way of your argument, so I don't expect any correction from you! Nonetheless, I think I'm entitled to correct you on this.

It's what I thought I read Robbin. If you really want me to trawl back and find the post I will, but it seems a bit pointless. You've just said yourself that you do sometimes manage bank-related work. I can appreciate that this doesn't make you the Head Honcho of Goldman Sachs.


To be honest I think it's less offensive to call someone 'a manager in banking' than 'Trumpesque'.


But it's probably best that we don't clog this thread up with chat, but leave it free for those who want to talk 'Brexit'.

Yes - do trawl through - or accept you are wrong - which is what you are. I shouldn't have to waste time correcting anything as basic as this (one of the reasons I've decided to spend more time on billable hours and less time wasted on here!). If you are simply unable to admit you are wrong, then I suppose that's the end of it, but let's at least be clear on this.


You have even sought to put further (misleading) words in my mouth in your last post! You said: "You've just said yourself that you do sometimes manage bank-related work."


Where did I "just" say that I manage bank related work?


Was it this? "...although I do spend quite a lot of time involved with bankers and banking related matters (but that's just one business sector of several that I get involved with)"


If so, you may correct yourself on that last statement while you are at it.


Might I suggest that if you don't want to be referred to as Trumpesque, don't make stuff up, or mischaracterise statements to support your arguments. Simple, really.

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