Brexit View

[malumbu]

We've probably run out of things to say.

May's attempt to satisfy both camps, with a mixed cabinet and some alignment, to be stabbed in the back by ERG and BoJo.

BoJo dropping DUP without a second thought

Tories move to the right and exodus of the moderates

BoJo managing to make the country even more divided

A worse deal and a worse PM than under May yet much of the country swallows it

On the good side it's focused my view on what't to blame - an internecine conflict on the fields of Eton

Nothing new there but thanks for letting me get this off my chest Cat

[TheCat]

malumbu Wrote:

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> We've probably run out of things to say.

>

> May's attempt to satisfy both camps, with a mixed

> cabinet and some alignment, to be stabbed in the

> back by ERG and BoJo.

>

> BoJo dropping DUP without a second thought

>

> Tories move to the right and exodus of the

> moderates

>

> BoJo managing to make the country even more

> divided

>

> A worse deal and a worse PM than under May yet

> much of the country swallows it

>

> On the good side it's focused my view on what't to

> blame - an internecine conflict on the fields of

> Eton

>

> Nothing new there but thanks for letting me get

> this off my chest Cat

agreed.....there's nothing to say......

[malumbu]

Corbyn was the reason that England lost the England World Cup. If we'd left the EU then things would have been different.

[Seabag]

I?m mostly glad we didn?t actually win the Rugby World Cup

Not for the sporting prowess, it?s been a brilliant tournament. But only for the fact that Bojo and Farage might have taken it and denigrated it as some kind of ?Engeeeerland? look how mighty we can be guff.

But of course it was Corbyn?s fault too, why not.

[dulwichbloke]

Maybe time to get out more?

[Seabag]

dulwichbloke Wrote:

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> Maybe time to get out more?

I was hoping to join the riots, but imagine my disappointment at the lack of Anarchy and chaos.

Still, I did make some nice toast, then went for a haircut.

[diable rouge]

I've been quiet because as predicted by Mark Francois, I exploded when we didn't leave the EU on the 31st. A shame this didn't coincide with my 10,000th post as I could've killed two birds with one stone...

[malumbu]

I've found the vid of Francois exploding, it's quite graphic so please don't open if you are of a nervous disposition

 

[Sue]

:))

[dulwichbloke]

JohnL Wrote:

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> > Lindsay Hoyle is the bookies' odds on

> favourite,

> > so you might yet get to vote.

>

> He is - but I saw a Sky News interview with Harman

> and she gave me the impression it was done and

> dusted (maybe that's the impression she wanted to

> give).

John, I may be speaking too soon, but it looks like you should be fine. After 1st round of voting:

Harman - 72

Sir Lindsay Hoyle - 211

Dame Eleanor Laing - 113

Chris Bryant - 98

Rosie Winterton - 46

[JohnL]

dulwichbloke Wrote:

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> JohnL Wrote:

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> > dulwichbloke Wrote:

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> > -----

> > > Lindsay Hoyle is the bookies' odds on

> > favourite,

> > > so you might yet get to vote.

> >

> > He is - but I saw a Sky News interview with

> Harman

> > and she gave me the impression it was done and

> > dusted (maybe that's the impression she wanted

> to

> > give).

>

> John, I may be speaking too soon, but it looks

> like you should be fine. After 1st round of

> voting:

>

> Harman - 72

> Sir Lindsay Hoyle - 211

> Dame Eleanor Laing - 113

> Chris Bryant - 98

> Rosie Winterton - 46

LOL - yes he won after 4 rounds with Chris Bryant in the run off and the reaction seems to be a range from 'Great' thorough 'He's a nice guy' to 'Tory stooge' (He's Labour by the way). I don't think he will be as theatrical (or as fun to watch) as Bercow.

Lots of comments I've heard on Harman I won't repeat here - she's definitely not popular with some people.

[diable rouge]

There's an unwritten convention that the Speaker's party allegiance alternates between the two main parties, and this time it was Labour's turn. Perhaps in the future the alternation will be between Leave and Remain(Rejoin)...

[cella]

There seems to be a lot of missing votes in the totals - presumably a lot didn't vote on an important issue?

[diable rouge]

I read there were about 100 that didn't vote, and around 60 of them are not standing at the next election, so perhaps they felt it wasn't right for them to vote...

[cella]

HH putting herself forward for Speaker wasn't supported in the main by Momentum so guessing it was possibly LP MPs abstaining. It's a shame as she would have been effective in that role.

[Loutwo]

Very disappointed because Harriet Harman is a decent MP and a decent human being. She would have made a brilliant speaker, but it seems Corbyn and his madcap Islington gang wanted to prevent her from doing it.

Louisa.

[cella]

Not necessarily. More about the group who have taken power in her local office who wanted what they saw as a full time presence in the Commons. And mysogony too.

[JohnL]

cella Wrote:

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> HH putting herself forward for Speaker wasn't

> supported in the main by Momentum so guessing it

> was possibly LP MPs abstaining. It's a shame as

> she would have been effective in that role.

I got a load of abuse on twitter when I supported her candidature (based on the old NCCL/Liberty stuff).

[diable rouge]

In an age of slick promos and catchy soundbites, there's still nothing quite as refreshingly powerful as 'the empty chair' visual, prefer a tub of lard to a glass of water though :)...

[diable rouge]

Another visual trick, what you see on the TV news isn't always the whole picture...

[diable rouge]

This is not the drunk at a wedding reception that no one knows who he is but politely nods along to his incoherent ramblings, this is our Prime Minister. A Prime Minister who doesn't understand the deal he struck with the EU, states that NI will have a great deal because it will remain in a customs union with freedom of movement. Errrr, so if it's such a great deal why are you taking that all away from the rest of us?...https://twitter.com/ManufacturingNI/status/1192564837345353728

[Sephiroth]

it's all the same ignorance (as in lack of knowledge/understanding) as we've seen over last 3-4 years

All of this has been pointed out multiple times - not enough people seem to want to hear

[Earl Aelfheah]

What you have to understand about Boris Johnson is that he doesn't really care about the detail of the deal. It's not that he is incapable, it's that he is indifferent. He's just interested in getting elected. None of it will effect his life in any discernible way.

[Sephiroth]

but he is behaving this way because he knows enough voters feel similarly

Which is just depressing

[JohnL]

One day Boris will make a mistake even he can't get out of. It's just a matter of time.

I just hope he takes Pritti Patel down with him .. Raab and Leadsome too.