The Coal Line is under threat from developers. Peckham Coal Line needs your help by Saturday

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I was going to write about the clearances required for maintaining Victorian railway viaducts and contemporary Marlin Plans.

No need because this information is here:

Statutory consultee replies - NETWORK RAIL

http://planbuild.southwark.gov.uk/documents/?GetDocument=%7b%7b%7b!TAXgpCQpnQInQ41VnvCZ9g%3d%3d!%7d%7d%7d

The site boundaries are here:

Plan - 2574-PA-100 - SITE PLAN

http://planbuild.southwark.gov.uk/documents/?GetDocument=%7b%7b%7b!SGQD7IKcP1zfxkQFHSAq9Q%3d%3d!%7d%7d%7d

Site location plan - 2574-OS

http://planbuild.southwark.gov.uk/documents/?GetDocument=%7b%7b%7b!EC%2bf%2bIyylcPGTaDQZeE5Hg%3d%3d!%7d%7d%7d

Network Rail are watching the boundary issues.

So at the moment I'm a little puzzled about the reason(s) for this thread.

[LondonMix]

I'll be objecting as I believe the area needs vital community projects like this

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LondonMix

Did you identify a threat to the Coal Line project from the planning application?

[LondonMix]

I've just asked the planners to ensure that whatever the final plans are for this scheme, that they safeguard access for the Coal Line as has been indicated in the AAP.

As long as planners are aware the community wants access safe guarded that's enough.

Also, the people behind the Coal Line are genuine community minded volunteers. They aren't posting this message on a lark. If you prioritise housing or don't like the community rail park that's fine but I don't think the people working very hard to bring a terrific project for the entire community are being disingenuous

[edhistory]

No threat identified there. The planning documents indicate the site boundary with a red line.

What is this threat?

[Earl Aelfheah]

LondonMix Wrote:

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> Also, the people behind the Coal Line are genuine

> community minded volunteers. They aren't posting

> this message on a lark. If you prioritise housing

> or don't like the community rail park that's fine

> but I don't think the people working very hard to

> bring a terrific project for the entire community

> are being disingenuous

This. The people behind the coal line campaign are actually getting out into the community and trying to improve things, so layoff the keyboard criticism.

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rahrahrah:

Have you identified the threat?

[LondonMix]

My understanding (which may be off) is the plan for the coal line involves changing the existing streets near this site. The plans as they stand would make the required connections and changes impossible.

For major infrastructure projects future changes like this require safe guarding. This isn't an existing boundary issue.

[TheCoalLine]

Dear East Dulwich Forum,

Thank you. The huge mobilisation you played a part in yesterday has forced a dialogue with the developer, which is a start! However ?Bluecroft Developments' will not withdraw the application so we?ll need to keep up the pressure with as many objections as possible until Saturday ? This is really important to help us navigate the minefield of planning policy and swing it to save the Coal Line ? YOUR VOICE MATTERS. At the same time we need to collectively work out what an alternative for the stable yard could look like to enable the Coal Line to go ahead at the same time as new houses.

The feasibility process for the Coal Line has involved talking to thousands of residents. Housing is a big priority for Peckham and we are open to collaborating with the developers to make sure that there is a better mix on the site to include affordable. The current plans would need to be re-arrange to save the original Victorian stable block and preserve a right of way for pedestrians and cyclists. We also need to safeguard any possible future link to the Nunhead section of the park that could only be accesses from this stable yard. Finally the site has to be integrated with the six double-height Network Rail arches, together the arches and stable yard have a big potential to create new local jobs and enterprise. We?d like to see some of the yard become a public space.

Basically over the coming days we?ll be working up alternatives so we can take these to our meeting with the developer on Tuesday.

Let me know if any of you want to get involved in this process. We?re in touch with many local groups including Peckham Vision, Peckham Citizens and others and we will try and arrange a meeting with other groups in the coming days to get advice and work out our collective priorities and approach.

We will keep you posted but if you?d like to be involved let us know.

Thanks again.

The PCL team.

As ever the best online places for updates are

twitter. @PeckhamCoalLine

facebook. https://www.facebook.com/peckhamcoalline

Ps to clarify the route from the feasibility study (published November 2016) is attached.

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Nick suggested I post a picture of the war damage.

The story handed down is that this was repaired within 48 hours.

[TheCoalLine]

Wow! that is absolutely incredible - thank you. What a great photo - well that is was the high-level part of the route is tricky in that location.

[Abe_froeman]

Is The Coal Line dependent on acquiring privately owned land then?

[sally buying]

Quote from first idea re the Coal Line

Steps to get it done:

"We will commission a professional landscape architect who can engage the landowners and develop a full feasibility study."

[nxjen]

I understand the crowdfunding target to pay for the feasibility study was reached about 18 months or so ago. Has this been undertaken yet, would be interesting to have a sight of it.

[DavidPeckham]

Objection submitted, thanks, team behind the coal line, it's hard to see all the benefits of something like this until there, here, but from what I've seen with your plans, and similar in other cities and countries, I wish you all the best, I think it will be a positive asset for South London for a long time to come.

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DavidPeckham:

Did you identify a threat?

[TheCoalLine]

@Abe_froeman Hi, it doesn't actually require acquiring any land but rather collaborate with the land owners along the way both public and private in order to safeguard the route and maintain public access. We are working towards something that works just as well for the land owner but also the wider public and neighbourhood.

[sally buying]

As the developer owns their land, the indirect threat comes from you via public objection to halt their development from taking place in the form they want.

Hope all parties do not rub each other up the wrong way and common sense prevails

[bsand]

Good luck it will be a great project if it comes to fruition. I imagine developers wouldn't like it as the path will have loads of folk walking at a high level who can no doubt look down into the properties.

[bsand]

Have just send in an objection and posted this over on the Urban75 Peckham thread. Are the relevant councillors and MP also aware ?

[bsand]

310 objections so far - still time to go - share freely and encourage others to object.

[spider69]

In an article in todays Southwark News regarding the coal line the designers of the coal line have stated

"Although the proposed nine news houses would not impede the coal line route, Nick and his team was surprised his team was not consulted and was "surprised" to learn of Bluecrofts plans only on Monday despite details of the Coal Line proposals being in the public domain since 2016"

Why is the heading of this thread shown as The Coal Line is under threat from developers? when it appears it is not.

Interesting article in the Southwark News which should be read to give a better overview of the whole matter.

[JohnL]

spider69 Wrote:

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> In an article in todays Southwark News regarding

> the coal line the designers of the coal line have

> stated

>

> "Although the proposed nine news houses would not

> impede the coal line route, Nick and his team was

> surprised his team was not consulted and was

> "surprised" to learn of Bluecrofts plans only on

> Monday despite details of the Coal Line proposals

> being in the public domain since 2016"

>

> Why is the heading of this thread shown as The

> Coal Line is under threat from developers? when it

> appears it is not.

>

> Interesting article in the Southwark News which

> should be read to give a better overview of the

> whole matter.

I think they were provoking a response - look for the

post from them further down.

Technically if you are not consulted by someone then

in the SWOT analysis it has to go in Threat :)

Quote from post earlier in the thread.

"We are absolutely not against housing on this site ? in fact there is the opportunity to create something denser and much more affordable. The current scheme sits at 9 houses just below the threshold of 10 where they are obliged to provide affordable housing and they have to contribute less CIL. We simply want the developers to acknowledge that they have a duty to engage the neighbours. After all it is the neighbours that have made the neighbourhood they are profiting from."

[JohnL]

and as this has been said by the cabinet member for regeneration and new homes

'the authority ?supports? the Coal Line, and also called on Bluecroft to ?work with us and the Coal Line? to deliver the project.'

It's worked - they now are included in the conversation.