Accident Barry Road 2.45pm (May 21)

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Argh this is infuriating - surely it would be cheaper and more effective to put traffic calming measure on Barry Rd itself rather than at every flipping junction along it...?

[James Barber]

Both obvious solutions of putting lots of humps and/or raised platforms or tables along Barry Road - the latter are hugely expensive. Buses will be inconvenienced. They might accept more speed tables but the homes nearby get shaken. The existing Goodrich table causes no end of grief for nesrby properties. I would'nt wish what they've suffered on anybody. The other obvious solution would be improving sight lines - trouble is it would take out 1.3rd to half of the parking - 50m near each junction - and likely to result in vehicles on Barry Road feeling they can go faster.

Average speed cameras would be perfect but neither the last Labour or tory component of the current govt wsant them - too anti drivers gonig at whatever speed they like!

Based on collisions and crash state we hopefully wont see another crash at Barry Road/UPland Road junction.

When council officers, local Police and I visited both junctions they appeared to have similar traffic volumes. With the soon to be 20mph speed limit on Whateley Road I'm hopeful the Underhill junction will also over time be shown to be also be much safer than it was.

[srisky]

Apologies for being dense but why would a 20mph speed limit on Whateley/Underhill Rd affect the accidents at that junction with Barry Rd? Drivers don't speed along Whateley/Underhill Rd; they also don't speed across the junction with Barry Rd but acutally stop at the giveway lines and tentatively cross the junction, however, the poor views down Barry Rd make this a game of 'chicken'!

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Both obvious solutions of putting lots of humps and/or raised platforms or tables along Barry Road - the latter are hugely expensive. Buses will be inconvenienced. They might accept more speed tables but the homes nearby get shaken. The existing Goodrich table causes no end of grief for nesrby properties. I would'nt wish what they've suffered on anybody.

James, did you happen to read the tfl document I posted up: "Traffic calming measures for bus routes":

"Speed cushions are the preferred vertical deflection measure used on bus routes, as they generally have less impact on buses than speed tables but slow vehicles to a desirable speed."

So, if the document is still up-to-date (you may know different?) tfl seem to prefer cushions over tables, but presumably these are just as expensive???

The table in Appendix A on p.14 has a good list of measures and how "acceptable" tfl find them...surely there must be something from there that could be implemented along Barry Rd?