Lordship Lane closed Both Ways

[Dodo1]

between Townley and Crystal Palace Roads due to accident (according to Radio London). Buses on diversion.

[kpc]

BBC Travel website no longer reporting this incident so hopefully now cleared. Will find out soon enough one way or another.

[GinaG3]

Cars coming both ways about 30 minutes ago. Police cordon removed.

[dollydaydream]

I was told that a car coming out of Goodrich Rd on to LL was it by a Land Rover and the person in the car had

to be cut out.

Hope the person will be OK.

[kpc]

dollydaydream Wrote:

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> Hope the person will be OK.

Echo that.

[TonyQuinn]

Indeed let's hope the person is ok. But a note of caution on that junction. I have noted it on several occasions but nothing seems to be done. Huge blind spot coming out of Goodrich onto Lordship, especially if there are vans near the junction. Much easier to drive down and come out on Heber if council not going to do anything about it.

[mon238]

Totaly agree!!! I wont risk driving out of goodrich rd again

as seen smashed golf and firemans cutting the roof of it!

TonyQuinn Wrote:

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> Indeed let's hope the person is ok. But a note of

> caution on that junction. I have noted it on

> several occasions but nothing seems to be done.

> Huge blind spot coming out of Goodrich onto

> Lordship, especially if there are vans near the

> junction. Much easier to drive down and come out

> on Heber if council not going to do anything about

> it.

[Pugwash]

Agree it is a blind spot- you only just see people coming out as you are nearing the junction when driving up the hill.

The other day I noticed that 2 women with buggies and a child in tow were attempting to cross LL at that point. Fortunately a car coming up the hill spotted them and was able to slow down and indicate them to cross. I was on a bus going down the hill - who also spotted the group and stopped.

[James Barber]

I've asked for details of the last three year crash stats for this junction and will share here when i have them.

[kford]

Well, it looks like poor sightlines again, caused by parked vehicles (see pic). Just extend the double-yellows up and down LL for 10 metres and road users will see vehicles sooner.

The same problem remains at the Barry Road/Underhill Road, despite the improvements to the junction.

[James Barber]

It's a tricky one kford.

Good sight lines often result in speeding.

Barry Road/Underhill Road will take a year from the changes to decide whether they've had the impact I hope they will.

Lets find out the crash stats for this junction.

One my current understanding of crashes in East Dulwich we should get Lordship Lane between Goose Green and Melbourne Grove 20mph.

[kford]

Good sightlines cause speeding? Based on what evidence?! Good sightlines are a fundamental of safe road design.

If your ambition is to slow the traffic on LL, then you should've prevented the repainting of the white centre lines last week - there is ample evidence to prove that no road markings slow traffic. It's one of the principles of the SharedSpace movemnent, of which I know you are a fan.

[Bronte]

James, if you are requesting the crash stats for the junction in question, could you also look at the stats for the stretch of road between the library and Upland Road? There have been several incidents to my knowledge, including a serious one outside my house a few months ago. Thanks.

[James Barber]

Hi kford,

Agree on the white lines but they don't ask cllrs before doing maintenance.

I've just been sent the crash stats for the junction of Goodrich Road with Lordship Lane. In the 3 years up to March zero reported crashes.

Slightly further afield - 5 slight and 2 severe road casualties on west half of Lordship Lane between Heber Road and Townley Road, 3 slight injuries across from junction with Landells road, and finally 1 slight injury 50m south from junction with Milo Road.

I'm hopeful that the road layour changes near to Plough Lane will resolve those 3 going forward.

What has come from this is a problem around the bus stop by the dentists. Echnically being the west side of Lordship Lane these happened in Village ward but I don't think I'l be treading on their toes by asking where this location fits in officers plans for reducing road casualties.

[mrure]

What are the stats for East Dulwich Road where it joins Peckham Rye?

[kford]

Good stats

[mrure]

Thanks, but I would like a bit more information than "good stats". Maybe James can help.