Football Focus

[maxxi]

Here too - maybe jenniejenjen thinks this is where all the 'single men in ED' are.

[Mick Mac]

Or maybe Jah has "changed"...

[maxxi]

Maybe he'll change back and the thread will return to zero when it gets to 8888...... (like clocking)

[Jah Lush]

Hmmm.... yeah. What's happened?

[Jah Lush]

Some refreshing honesty from a footballer who admits to playing for the money and not the shirt. Tell that to the badge kissers.

Assou-Ekotto tells it like it is.

[Otta]

Hope Evra has it wrong, but he seems determined to follow up his racism claims against Suarez...

Have to say (and it pains me), fair place to Alex Ferguson for his comments.

[Alan Medic]

nigga

a term used in greeting between one minority to another

greeting used by a black or spanish person from a ghetto back ground

a greeting used from a minority to greet a friend some of the friends can be white if there from a ghetto background and note to white people dont say it back unless ur from a black or spanish decent

Before reading this (Urban Dictionary) I wondered if there was anything in Latin American Spanish that might excuse Suarez. I'm not saying this does (assuming he used the word), but I wonder if Evra mistook the context in which it was used? Clutching at straws probably.

[Parkdrive]

It's hard to believe, if the accustaions are true, that such behavious still exists, but it is still rife in places like Eastern Europe. On the the flip side of the coin, waving an imaginary card around is not like to win much support from anybody. Not as despicable as racial abuse but unwelcome nontheless.

[Alan Medic]

No mention of why Evra waved an imaginary card?

[Undisputedtruth]

Suarez is scum. He has a track record of cheating and even biting another footballer's ear.

[Parkdrive]

Alan Medic Wrote:

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> No mention of why Evra waved an imaginary card?

Would that make his behaviour easier to accept, or justifiable?

[Alan Medic]

No it wouldn't, but his 'offence' is minor compared to the type of cheating which he reacted to.

[Parkdrive]

Alan Medic Wrote:

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> No it wouldn't, but his 'offence' is minor

> compared to the type of cheating which he reacted

> to.

2 wrongs, as the saying goes........

[Undisputedtruth]

What Evra may have done is immaterial when Suarez is alleged to be using racist language. The football authorities have worked hard to stamp out racism from the game. If Suarez is found guilty and it should be easy to prove using video evidence and a lip reader then a lengthy ban (minimum 12 months) is in order. This sort of behaviour cannot be tolerated in the modern game.

[Parkdrive]

Undisputedtruth Wrote:

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> What Evra may have done is immaterial when Suarez

> is alleged to be using racist language. The

> football authorities have worked hard to stamp out

> racism from the game. If Suarez is found guilty

> and it should be easy to prove using video

> evidence and a lip reader then a lengthy ban

> (minimum 12 months) is in order. This sort of

> behaviour cannot be tolerated in the modern game.

I've not suggested for one moment that the "alleged" racism, and let's not forget it is just that at the moment, but I don't like to see cheating, diving, nor do I like to see the imaginary card being brandished. All forms of bad sportsmanship.

[Atticus]

Suarez=wrong'un

[Undisputedtruth]

Brandishing the imaginary card is just a reminder to the referee to make sure he/she follows the rules of the game. No different to a victim reporting an alleged criminal matter to a Police Officer.

I'll bet Suarez, the cheating scum bag, has branded imaginary cards in his career.

[DaveR]

"Brandishing the imaginary card is just a reminder to the referee to make sure he/she follows the rules of the game. No different to a victim reporting an alleged criminal matter to a Police Officer"

"Please Mr Policeman, that man hit me, honest he did, quick, put the cuffs on him and if he struggles make sure to thump him, go on....."

[Undisputedtruth]

DaveR Wrote:

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> "Please Mr Policeman, that man hit me, honest he

> did, quick, put the cuffs on him and if he

> struggles make sure to thump him, go on....."

Likely to happen if the offender is Black and the victim is White.

[Otta]

UDT you do talk some stereotypical rot at times.

I've been loving Suarez as a player, but if he is proven guilty, he should receive a severe punishment.

Equally, if it's proven to be lies, I hope Evra is punished for dragging a fellow pro's name through the dirt.

[Undisputedtruth]

I'm afraid it seems you're ill informed of Suarez's history, Otta. Your stereotype claim is without foundation.

Evra has been a pro in this country for many years. It doesn't make sense for someone of Evra's ilk to make something up.

I applaud Evra for making a stand against racism and to threaten Evra with punishments for reporting such an incident is just as bad as the original offence itself.

A Norwich fan was banned for life for using the same racist word on his twitter account. I hope this sets the precedent for Suarez's punishment if found guilty.

[Alan Medic]

I'm of the view that it happened, as I don't think I've ever seen Evra wound up to that extent before. He wasn't acting. Suarez has some crazy history behind him. United don't seem to want to push it though. Fergie realises that if he didn't distance himself from this being a club thing as opposed to it being personal, it would lead to poorer relations between the clubs.

[Otta]

Undisputedtruth Wrote:

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> I applaud Evra for making a stand against racism

> and to threaten Evra with punishments for

> reporting such an incident is just as bad as the

> original offence itself.

If there was racism, I applaud Evra too, and I never even hinted that he should be punished for raising it. I said he should be punished if it turns out to be lies.

The stereotype comment was directed at your comment about the police bashing black people. That sort of thing has no place on a thread about football thanks.

Regarding Suarez, you're right, I know nothing of his past, and as I've already said, if guilty, then a severe punishment should be handed down. Having a past doesn't necessarily mean he's guilty of racism though, and I don't believe in condemning people before the evidence has been properly reviewed.

[gabrielnagy]

Than...it is gone from an idea and get to a developed subject...funny isn't it?

[Undisputedtruth]

Otta Wrote:

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>

> The stereotype comment was directed at your

> comment about the police bashing black people.

> That sort of thing has no place on a thread about

> football thanks.

>

> Regarding Suarez, you're right, I know nothing of

> his past, and as I've already said, if guilty,

> then a severe punishment should be handed down.

> Having a past doesn't necessarily mean he's guilty

> of racism though, and I don't believe in

> condemning people before the evidence has been

> properly reviewed.

It seems, Otta, that you live a sheltered life. I've seen the Police behaved badly towards Black people and frankly hearing your poorly informed statements just makes me wonder whether you find the issue between black people and the police difficult to comprehend.

Moving on, Suarez is not exactly known for his honesty on the pitch and concern that Liverpool has chosen to support this vile person by claiming Evra had made up his allegation.

I've never said Suarez was guilty of racism but with video evidence and witness statements from Evra's team mates does not bode well for the Suarez's cause.