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[Undisputedtruth]

Alan Medic Wrote:

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> Stan Collymore view is quite interesting.

My view is that Liverpool have no moral values. After all, last January they spent ?60m on two players, one accused of assaulting a woman and the other known for cannibalism on the pitch.

edit to remove a double negative.

[Otta]

No I've never been racially abused, and I never said that because he didn't react, it couldn't have happened. Again with the putting words in my mouth.

Zidane was a pro too by the way.

I think the only thing that is clear is that UDT doesn't like Liverpool, and so will spout any old shite about them.

Like I've said several times, IF there is any evidence of wrongdoing, he should be punished. Until that happens, most sane people won't be convinced of his guilt just because they don't like his club.

[Undisputedtruth]

Otta Wrote:

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> No I've never been racially abused, and I never

> said that because he didn't react, it couldn't

> have happened. Again with the putting words in my

> mouth.

>

> Zidane was a pro too by the way.

>

> I think the only thing that is clear is that UDT

> doesn't like Liverpool, and so will spout any old

> shite about them.

>

> Like I've said several times, IF there is any

> evidence of wrongdoing, he should be punished.

> Until that happens, most sane people won't be

> convinced of his guilt just because they don't

> like his club.

Otta, your statements seems to be getting more ridiculous as time goes by. I've never said I hated Liverpool or any other clubs for that matter. All I did was merely pointed out Liverpool's moral position when it comes to buying players.

Zidane acted unprofessionally during the World Cup final game against Italy. Are you seriously saying he acted entirely professionally in the sending off incident?

[Otta]

Er, no.

I was just saying that like Evra, he was a pro footballer, in order to demonstrate that even a pro could flare up if abused (I think there was racial stuff said about Zidane and his family).

[Undisputedtruth]

Sorry Otta but reading all of your posts on this subject it springs to mind that either you haven't properly researched the subject or have a poor grasp of logic.

[Alan Medic]

I wasn't aware any morality existed nowadays in the world of transfers or football for that matter. If a player is important enough to a club they will overlook just about anything so long as it doesn't interfere with his ability to play.

Off the top of my head I can remember MU sacking Tommy Doc for having being caught having an affair with the wife of another employee. You could say that was a moral stance. Anyone think of other examples?

[Undisputedtruth]

AM,

Glen Hoddle and Terry Venables as England managers. Their sackings were totally unrelated to football. Terry Venables had technically resigned his position but there were question marks about his business interests though.

Also, Mutu sacked by Chelsea for taking drugs.

[Jah Lush]

And Marlon King, sacked at Wigan Athletic after being jailed for assaulting a woman in a nightclub.

[Atticus]

Capello dropping fine specimen of a man Terry as Eng captain for knobbing his (Terry's) mate's missus.

[Undisputedtruth]

Barry Ferguson and Alan Mcgregor were caught making v-signs and consequently banned for life by Scotland.

[Otta]

Undisputedtruth Wrote:

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> Sorry Otta but reading all of your posts on this

> subject it springs to mind that either you haven't

> properly researched the subject or have a poor

> grasp of logic.

Okay then. I'll be sure to do more research about the allegation. Clearly I'm missing the evidence that proves Suarez guilty.

[Undisputedtruth]

Using the Liverpool line over the Suarez's affair as your own doesn't say much for you.

[Otta]

Why don't you explain to me clearly then, where I'm going wrong.

I admit, I'm genuinely not sure.

[Undisputedtruth]

Otta Wrote:

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> Why don't you explain to me clearly then, where

> I'm going wrong.

>

> I admit, I'm genuinely not sure.

Sorry, I'm not going to waste my time in playing silly buggers with you.

[Otta]

What a surprise. Idiot.

[Parkdrive]

Atticus Wrote:

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> Capello dropping fine specimen of a man Terry as

> Eng captain for knobbing his (Terry's) mate's

> missus.

At the other end of the spectrum, Arsenal supporting Tony Adams after his prison sentence for drink driving, and Paul Merson after admitting his addictions to drink, drugs, and gambling. Oh and Paul Davis after breaking an opponents jaw.

[Jah Lush]

And over in Spain Cesc Fabregas has been accused by Freddie Kanoute with the same offence as Terry and Suarez. Kick it out.

[Parkdrive]

If memory serves me correctly Patrick Vieira accused Neil Ruddock of racism a few years back, during a rather unpleasant exchange which saw Vieira spitting at "Razor"? Ian Wright also famously accused Peter schmeichel of racism during a typically friendly encounter.

[Atticus]

Razor was certainly stuck in the past, remember him gesturing to a French player (poss Cantona)that he had garlic breath, what a prick!

[Undisputedtruth]

Well it seems Evra have lifted the lid on racism in football as clearly these incidences have been happening for many years. The Paul Davis broken jaw incident was related to racial abuse.

[Parkdrive]

Undisputedtruth Wrote:

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> Well it seems Evra have lifted the lid on racism

> in football as clearly these incidences have been

> happening for many years. The Paul Davis broken

> jaw incident was related to racial abuse.

Really?? I thought it was because the opponent had raked the back of his ankle, or part of his leg, with his studs??

[Otta]

Unfortunately, it is still all too common.

Anti semetic chants towards Avram Grant, by his own fans at Chelsea is a particularly insane one. Also John Barnes getting stick from Liverpool fans!

[Otta]

[Undisputedtruth]

Well in those days you were allowed to do a man's tackle but I've always thought the Paul Davis' incident was related to racial abuse and about his mother. I'll bet Glenn Cockeril kept his mouth shut during the rest of his career.

[Parkdrive]

Undisputedtruth Wrote:

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> Well in those days you were allowed to do a man's

> tackle but I've always thought the Paul Davis'

> incident was related to racial abuse and about his

> mother. I'll bet Glenn Cockeril kept his mouth

> shut during the rest of his career.

Well he certainly had problems fot at least two months after Davis walloped him!! ;-)