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Wenger knows he has a few young players coming through. Especially a couple of promising central defenders.


When Arsenal had a goalkeeping crisis you didn't see Wenger go rushing out to buy a top class keeper. That was because he knew Szczęsny, who was at loan at Brentford at the time, was going to be a good keeper.

I just hope, Sagna, Wilshere, and Vermaelen come back sooner rather than later and Oxlade - Chamberlain starts more often than not. I can't see Le Boss putting his hand in his pocket this transfer window, having said that not convinced that there are too many decent players out there to buy who would be able to play in the prem and in the Champs League.

I need to ask you all a favour.


Kevin Williams died at Hillsborough. He was 15 years old, he went to a football match and never came home. The coroner's inquest deemed that there would be no point investigating events after 3.15pm as none of the 96 that died would have survived. Kevin's mother has evidence that Kevin was alive at 4pm and had he simply been given oxygen he'd still be here today.


http://epetitions.direct.gov.uk/petitions/19149


Irrespective of your views about who was to blame, irrespective of football rivalries and who you support, many lives could have been saved on 15 April 1989 but ambulances and first aid was stopped from entering the Hillsborough stadium. This mother deserves that her son's inquest be reopened and all of the evidence heard. She deserves peace.


Please sign the petition

The Hillsborough disaster was awful on so many levels, and the treatment of both the victims and their reputations added a further terrible contribution to the whole situation.


However, Mrs. Williams essentially wants to turn the finding on Kevin Williams from 'accidental death' to 'unlawful killing':


"The appropriate standard of proof is that the unlawful killing must be beyond reasonable doubt. This is when the evidence was so overwhelmingly obvious that death would result, that no other thing is taken into account."


This means that she wants the court to find that the police deliberately engineered a situation where Liverpool fans would be killed, knowing that they would be killed as a result.


This is such an extraordinary misanthropic claim that I do not believe this particular e-petition should be supported.


Even the European Court of Human Rights - so traditionally opposed to the Britsh establishment - rejected her case.


People who care enough about Anne Williams to sign this petition might actually wonder whether the kind thing to do would be to try and defuse the situation rather than inflame it.

Anne Williams want to know why fans had to try and resuscitate her son when there were dozens of ambulances being blocked from getting in to the ground.

Anne Williams wants to know why Liverpool were given the smaller end of the ground when our support was almost double what Forest's was that day.

Anne Williams wants to know why Hillsborough was allowed to be used as a venue when the safety certificate had expired.

Anne wants to know why the CCTV tapes that were monitoring the Leppings Lane end have mysteriously disappeared.

Anne wants to know why police statements and accounts were changed

Anne wants to know why people had been crushed in the Leppings Lane end on previous occasion and nothing had been done to stop this happening again.


They are just a few of the questions that Anne wants answered that have never been investigated since that terrible day. How dare this woman try by any means necessary to try and have those questions answered.

Even if you're right Huguenot, and I don't know enough about the law to know, at least by giving this lady the inquest that she wants, and probably needs, it could offer closure.


Even if at the end of it his cause of death is still recorded as "accidental death", she will have had a full inquest, and will no longer feel that doors are slammed in her face.


Still hate the throwing around of the word "justice", but can totally understand the need for a full inquest.


Truth for the 96 would be more appropriate perhaps.


Agree with BR about the police, it's not like they set out that morning to fuck up the Liverpool fans, and I'll bet a fair few of them have nasty dreams about that day too.

Huguenot Wrote:

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> The Hillsborough disaster was awful on so many

> levels, and the treatment of both the victims and

> their reputations added a further terrible

> contribution to the whole situation.

>

> However, Mrs. Williams essentially wants to turn

> the finding on Kevin Williams from 'accidental

> death' to 'unlawful killing':

>

> "The appropriate standard of proof is that the

> unlawful killing must be beyond reasonable doubt.

> This is when the evidence was so overwhelmingly

> obvious that death would result, that no other

> thing is taken into account."

>

> This means that she wants the court to find that

> the police deliberately engineered a situation

> where Liverpool fans would be killed, knowing that

> they would be killed as a result.

>

> This is such an extraordinary misanthropic claim

> that I do not believe this particular e-petition

> should be supported.

>

> Even the European Court of Human Rights - so

> traditionally opposed to the Britsh establishment

> - rejected her case.

>

> People who care enough about Anne Williams to sign

> this petition might actually wonder whether the

> kind thing to do would be to try and defuse the

> situation rather than inflame it.



As I said before, you are a one off. Thank god. Do you go out of your way to be unsympathetic and abrasive or does it come naturally. Incredible. The only person out to "inflame" the situation here is you.

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