BBC, ITV and SKY guilty of Royal wedding excess

[Jules-and-Boo]

Pretty much it. I don't think anyone likes Camilla and her position as Queen would not carry any goodwill.

But then, the Duke of Edinburg is not King so would Cam actually be the Queen? IDK

[rendelharris]

Jules-and-Boo Wrote:

-------------------------------------------------------

> Pretty much it. I don't think anyone likes Camilla

> and her position as Queen would not carry any

> goodwill.

>

> But then, the Duke of Edinburg is not King so

> would Cam actually be the Queen? IDK

Yes she would be (and Charles is reportedly quite insistent about it) - under the antediluvian rules, a queen is always subordinate to a king, so a woman marrying in can become queen as she still has to obey the king, but if a man marries a queen, he can't become king as the queen would then have to obey a man not of the royal blood. That's why when Albert married Victoria he became Prince Consort, not king. All bonkers!

[JohnL]

Michael Palaeologus Wrote:

-------------------------------------------------------

> Louisa Wrote:

> --------------------------------------------------

> -----

> > I believe in democracy. Electing a head of

> state,

> > and being able to remove that head of state via

> a

> > ballot box is way more important to me than

> > individuals or personalities. The symbolism of

> a

> > class structure in which power is inherited

> rather

> > than earnt is disgusting to me. These people

> are

> > parasites, they?ll do anything and everything

> to

> > cling onto their situation.

> >

> > Louisa.

>

> I can think of nothing more disgusting that

> President Blair, President Benn, President

> Thatcher or President Cameron.

>

> In these times of political corruption and fakery,

> an apolitical Head of State is a blessing.

I always use President Balls on twitter :)

and first lady Yvette Cooper.

[Sue]

Jules-and-Boo Wrote:

-------------------------------------------------------

I don't think anyone likes Camilla

Where do you get that from?

Stuff you've read in the media?

[Mystic Mog]

I really like Camilla.

[moondancer]

Robert Poste's Child Wrote:

-------------------------------------------------------

> I'm not left wing, just find the royal family an

> anachronism and increasingly ridiculous. A slimmed

> down version focused on the monarch wouldn't be so

> bad, but this extended celebrity family, using

> their position to carve out public roles for

> themselves in which they pose as morally superior

> to the rest of us, awarding themselves titles

> simply for existing, and spending more days on

> holiday than actually working, disgusts me. More

> importantly, the concept of 'royal' has become

> ridiculous - there are people out there with more

> royal blood than most of them - George, 4th in

> line to the throne, has less than 20%. They pay

> most of their employees peanuts too, despite their

> vast wealth.

>

> ETA: loving the Guardian website: their coverage

> of the wedding has a collapse button so you don't

> have to see it if you don't want to.

A good post, RPC -

This is Communal Narcissism at it's finest, and quite transparent.

We can clearly see the Royal Blood thinning - think Princess Alexandra, then think Beatrice.

I wanted to make a comment about low pay as I have first hand info on this -

The RF, Royal Parks, and the Crown Estate have always paid peanuts, a coal allowance and yearly jamboree at the 'Servants Ball' which the Queen and other members of the RF attend. This is a perceived perk.

Apart from local families who have a tradition of working for Royalty, as in Windsor, Sandringham, Balmoral, or old retainers of the 'backstairs Billy' variety who are devoted and sacrifice their working lives to serve, young single people who are Royalty struck and

make this calling their career, with accommodation of part of their 'wage', tied cottages, as in 'The Village' in Windsor Great Park, or Grace and Favour apartments/houses, the mindset is particular and peculiar. It has to be?

This is exemplified by hearing 'one cannot get good servants these days' said straight faced by a newly wed aristocrat not so long ago, and the reverse - " Staff nowadays have no idea about service " said by a country house cook, both remarks delivered with disdain and no irony.

There is a symbiosis here which still exists, whether or not we believe it to be healthy, natural or understandable.

A quite different mindset will secure employment with the Crown Estates, on a yearly contract, to use as a stepping stone, to a more glamorous lifestyle, for (obviously) better pay, conditions, accommodation, travel, glitz and glamour, using the eclat associated with the Royal House of Windsor, as a springboard, long term strategy

and worthwhile pay off.

However we have all seen behind the curtain haven't we, and are increasingly cynical.

I want the RF to be noble, dutiful, honourable, marry well, serve it's populace, deliver enchanting children to

carry on the pageantry and keep the Bliars at bay.

I would only vote if they behaved themselves properly, were

accountable and as you say RPC, cut down the holidays and genuinely and sincerely take an interest in the country.

This doesn't label me as left wing does it? more despairing citizen.

The media will continue to squeeze every last drop from this H&M true romance, we cannot really expect anything else.

There has to be a point soon when everything settles down?

Then it is Eugenie's turn in the limelight, a guilty pleasure for the comedic value of Beatrice's get up.

[malumbu]

More annoyed that Five Live started their FA Cup coverage so early booting out Danny Baker. Now if it was a three o'clock kick off that would have been fine. I expect I'll now find out he was shifted to 5 extra.

I'd get rid of the monarchy, and happily become a secular republic. But not really bothered about last weekend and with my minimal attention (about two snippets on the radio and seeing headlines in the Metro) I understand that it was a nice event.

If I was bothered it would be the A list celebs, in the same way they appear at all major national events. Yes posh and becks I am talking about you.

[JohnL]

Charles strikes me as someone who just might try and interfere a bit in the government (or maybe I'm thinking of the original House of Cards http://house-of-cards.wikia.com/wiki/The_King ).

That will be interesting whenever it occurs (which might still be a while).

[Jules-and-Boo]

Sue - I thought it was common knowledge - otherwise we'd see her all over the tabs.

[Louisa]

Jules-and-Boo Wrote:

-------------------------------------------------------

> Sue - I thought it was common knowledge -

> otherwise we'd see her all over the tabs.

It is common knowledge. Sue is just being awkward as usual.

Louisa.