Save The Peckham Rye Irish Festival

[cmck83]

I always find it odd that The Irish Shop never has a stall. I went all excited about Tayto, Cidona and Club Orange, but was sorely disappointed.

[Undisputedtruth]

@maxxi,

Southwark has a fascinating history and it would be great if the Irish were recognised for their contribution. But putting in money for a Southwark Irish fete does nothing for the Irish cause.

[Huguenot]

What's the Irish cause, and how does not putting money into a Southwark Irish fete do nothing for it?

@ibilly99: that's why the 'Let's blow all our cash on getting drunk and bugger the rest of it Party' didn't get elected ;-)

[Alan Medic]

cmck83 Wrote:

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> I always find it odd that The Irish Shop never has

> a stall. I went all excited about Tayto, Cidona

> and Club Orange, but was sorely disappointed.

The Irish Shop has a shop though. Have you seen the price of Tayto?

[Otta]

Tayto cheese & onion remind me of KP cheese & onion.

Club orange soda does rock.

[edhistory]

alwaysFN seems to have gone away.

So that there is no misunderstanding here is the legal authority for the last substantive change in the ownership of Peckham Rye Common.

Note that this is not what appears in local history books.

There is a "back story" here which could be "interesting". Does anyone want to take this on as a small project?

John K

[alwaysFN]

When i says 'your lot' i mean your people who make your rules, we have our own councils thanks.

as for the other bit here it is.....not that it means much, to some common lands is common lands

Officers have received the result of a local search which confirms as

anticipated that the property is part of Peckham Rye Common which is

registered as Common Land under the Commons Registration Act 1965.

Common Land is subject to ?rights of common? example rights of grazing, or

of cutting bracken, in common with other people. There is no single legal

definition of Common Land but in general it means land that is registered

under the 1965 Act or the Commons Act 2006. The 2006 Act updated the

1965 Act and provides that Common land is protected from development.

Under section 38 of the 2006 Act consent from the Secretary of State is

required to any restricted works on registered common land. Restricted works

are those which prevent or impede access to or over the land, which might

include erecting fencing, constructing buildings, digging ditches, but also

includes the resurfacing of land with tarmac and similar materials.

http://moderngov.southwarksites.com

[ColdTurkey22]

alwaysFN Wrote:

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> When i says 'your lot' i mean your people who make

> your rules, we have our own councils thanks.

>

> as for the other bit here it is.....not that it

> means much, to some common lands is common lands

>

> Officers have received the result of a local

> search which confirms as

> anticipated that the property is part of Peckham

> Rye Common which is

> registered as Common Land under the Commons

> Registration Act 1965.

> Common Land is subject to ?rights of common?

> example rights of grazing, or

> of cutting bracken, in common with other people.

> There is no single legal

> definition of Common Land but in general it means

> land that is registered

> under the 1965 Act or the Commons Act 2006. The

> 2006 Act updated the

> 1965 Act and provides that Common land is

> protected from development.

> Under section 38 of the 2006 Act consent from the

> Secretary of State is

> required to any restricted works on registered

> common land. Restricted works

> are those which prevent or impede access to or

> over the land, which might

> include erecting fencing, constructing buildings,

> digging ditches, but also

> includes the resurfacing of land with tarmac and

> similar materials.

>

> http://moderngov.southwarksites.com

ha,ha,ha I like the name.

[Marmora Man]

alwaysFN - do you have any details of the subsidies that "your own councils" have paid to ethnic minorities to support their festivities as I assume you'd like to offer reciprocal arrangements for the subsidies you seek from "our lot"?

Who do I apply to for such support - I'd quite like to hold an "English Festival" on the Rye with cricket, warm beer, knotted handkerchief hats and morris dancing. I think about ?50,000 should do it.

[ianr]

alwaysFN Wrote:

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> Officers have received the result of a local search which confirms as

> anticipated that the property is part of Peckham Rye Common which is

>[...]

> http://moderngov.southwarksites.com

Could you please provide the link to the specific document that you want to refer to or are possibly quoting from. This one is insufficient.

[alwaysFN]

Sadly your application for an 'English Festival' would be turned down as your romantic view of what defines Englishness is to anyone with their eyes open a long forgotten myth. 'Your lot' have done a good job of ensuring that over the years. I think your John Major was the last one who quoted that romantic fantasy of a merry England, and whilst he was bedding up with the bird with the sour eggs. Now if 'our lot' had an historical re-enactment fund then you may have some success, but we don't.

Culture is the bedrock of our community, camera cars seem to be the rock of yours., dont blame us.

As a side note, The Irish government through the Emigrant Support Programme have since 2004 allocated over ?65m in support of Irish communities in Britain.

So the traveller gatherings will continue as they were, pre the 'Irish festival', and if that takes place on common land then so be it.

[KidKruger]

My Country's culture > your Country's culture.

[Alan Medic]

Hands up who had any say on where they were born?

[alwaysFN]

My Country's culture > your Country's culture. Dream on sonny, respect other people's culture and that idea may work. I hear they love you over Benidorm way.

[RosieH]

alwaysFN = irony free zone

I'm pretty sure that KK was suggesting that's what you were saying. Your ridiculous trolling seems to be getting in the way of anything approaching intelligence or insight.

[mockney piers]

alwaysFN's trolling < AFN's trolling

[Huguenot]

alwaysFN - are you a militant gypsy who wants funding from the society that he abuses and doesn't contribute to, or a militant Irishman who wants funding from the society that he abuses and doesn't contribute to?

I wasn't aware tha gypsy/Irish was interchangeable?

[ianr]

always FN wrote:

> As a side note, The Irish government through the Emigrant Support Programme have since 2004 allocated over

> ?65m in support of Irish communities in Britain.

alwaysFN, are you working for or speaking on behalf of any organisations that have received or are applying for a grant under this programme?

[KidKruger]

"My Country's culture > your Country's culture."

The point of this comment was highlighting that blatant dismissal of another peoples' culture is just plain ignorant.

The comment made by OP about car cameras (or whatever it was) being the measure of a country's culture is just plain ridiculous.

Give the vitriol and apparent hatred against what seems to be England/the English, the obvious question seems to be what in God's name are you doing here if it's all that bad (assuming the OP is in fact here in this culture-barren hell) ?

[Alan Medic]

I think he's in Essex. Is that England?

[maxxi]

I'm sure this has been used before but...

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[peterstorm1985]

I just asked a proper* Irish mate of mine about her gypsy background. I'd love to write what she said but I think I'd be banned.

*ie mammy and daddy not just some distant ancestor

[maxxi]

diddle-di-dee 73!

[Alan Medic]

Did I ever get your entry form and subscription maxxi?

[maxxi]

What?!

?73.73p? (or ?37.37p if paid by direct debit on 7th March every 37 years)

I left it at No. 73 on the 3rd of July with an seven old women who each had three cats who each had seven kittens who each had 73 fleas - I thought you knew?