Jump to content

Recommended Posts

I think normally 'social justice' is threefold - demands for progressive taxation play a part, but as with many arguments in the UK it's principally imported inappropriately from US bulletin boards.


Taxation in the US is demonstrably less progressive than in the UK, and so the focus loses its validity when it's applied to the UK where welfare, health and education play a very egalitarian role in society.


Conversely, 'social justice' is also heavily reliant on redistribution of wealth and property, something rarely pursued by successful communities as it disempowers the individual in favour of the state.


This has a failure rate so high that it's frankly surprising that any remotely educated adult would espouse it.


However, the idea was supported by John Rawls, who was notable for other very bright ideas such as equality in the eyes of the law, and democratic consensus. Most of these ideas were evidently agreeable, and at the time he was fighting 1950s and 60s American extremist politics.


So I prefer to think the redistribution of wealth and property was the product of his age, and leans toward a revolutionary fringe that doesn't seem so valid today.


Mainly though, it's another boring American idea that's inappropriate for an essentially socialist UK society.


I do note though, that Rawls thought humanity to be both reasonable and rational - something that UDT would probably not agree with - so he'd be an unwilling bed partner to UDT's foil hat defensiveness.

"Conversely, 'social justice' is also heavily reliant on redistribution of wealth and property, something rarely pursued by successful communities as it disempowers the individual in favour of the state.


This has a failure rate so high that it's frankly surprising that any remotely educated adult would espouse it. "


Man, you are on FIRE lately. The happiest and in many cases most successful communities (your Scandinavians, Germans etc) have all leaned more towards that model than us, uk or Singapore.


Is not impossible

Erm.... Taxation in SG is very progressive, just not substantial.


Wasn't my choice anyhow, just seems to work quite well.


Gonna have to check whether Scandis spend wisely. Last time I checked there was a political rebellion about siding with the Krauts, or anyone in Europe. Great if you've changed your mind.


Neither society believes in redistribution of wealth or property.

Create an account or sign in to comment

You need to be a member in order to leave a comment

Create an account

Sign up for a new account in our community. It's easy!

Register a new account

Sign in

Already have an account? Sign in here.

Sign In Now
  • Latest Discussions

    • OMFG is it possible for the council to do anything without a bunch of armchair experts moaning about it? The library refurb is great news, as it's lovely but completely shagged out - the toilets don't even work reliably. Other libraries in the area will be open longer house during the closure. July is a rubbish time to begin a refurb because it's just before the entire construction sector goes on summer holiday, and it would mean delaying the work another 8 months.
    • Hi there, We are currently having issues with our current nursery in ED, and are looking for an excellent childminder or nanny locally. We live on Melbourne Grove so can walk within a 5-10 min radius. Ideally to start in January 2026 please. We have a 14 month old girl. Any recommendation for other childcare providers would be appreciated too! Thanks a lot, Jojo
    • Licensing application for 2026 has gone in and they want to extend the event from 4 to 7 days accross two weekends.  There are some proposed significant changes to be aware of:   Event proposal moves to two separate weekends Number of days of the festival moves from 4 to 7 meaning also a change in the original licence is required Expected footfall in the park over the two weekends around 60,000.    Dear Peckham Rye Park Stakeholder,   Re: STAKEHOLDER CONSULTATION – event application: ‘GALA and On The Rye Festival 2026’ – ref: SWKEVE000935   We are writing to you because you have previously identified yourself as someone who wishes to be informed about event applications for Peckham Rye Park, or we think that you might have an interest in knowing about this particular event application.   Please be aware that the council are in receipt of an event application for: GALA and On The Rye Festival 2026’   In line with the council’s Outdoor Events Policy and events application process we are carrying out consultation regarding this application.   The following reference documents are attached to this email:   Consultation information APPENDIX A – site plan weekend 1 APPENDIX B – site plan weekend 2 APPENDIX C – Production Schedule APPENDIX D – 2025 Noise Management Plan   The consultation is open from Tuesday 4 November and will close at midnight on Tuesday 2 December 2025   Community engagement sessions will take place on Wednesday 19 November.   If you would like to comment on application: SWKEVE000935 and take part in the online consultation, please visit:   www.southwark.gov.uk/GALA2026   If you have any questions, please don’t hesitate to contact us.     Kind Regards, Southwark Events Team Environment and Leisure PO Box 64529 London SE1P 5LX 020 7525 3639 @SouthwarkEvents APPENDIX A - SITE PLAN weekend 1.pdf APPENDIX B - SITE PLAN weekend 2.pdf APPENDIX C - PRODUCTION SCHEDULE.pdf And just to add that councillor Renata Hamvas chairs the licensing committee. Worth contacting her with views on ammendments to the original license. I am fairly sure she won't grant any amendments, but just in case.....
    • Second time Aria has completed a plumbing job for me and both times he’s been polite. Communicative, kept to time and completed the job. He’s very helpful and tidy as well. First job was ball valve in water tank, not easy at all. He and his team were fantastic. This time kitchen tap cylinders replaced and tap tightened.  Much appreciated, Aria thank you.
Home
Events
Sign In

Sign In



Or sign in with one of these services

Search
×
    Search In
×
×
  • Create New...