Plough lane speed enforcement

[Earl Aelfheah]

Plough lane (the short and very picturesque little alley next to the plough pub has had two 20 miles an hour signs put up at it's entrance. In addition there is a large stark white 20 painted on the road surface itself. Visually it is quite striking for both it's ugliness and absurdity. You couldn't actually accelerate up to 20 using the full length of the road from one end to the other. What is this all about? Is it meant to be some kind of ironic street art?

[Big D]

You probably could accelerate up to 20mph but just not stop in time!

[Earl Aelfheah]

I wonder how much this little bit of vandalism cost?

[Jeremy]

You could turn into it at over 20mph.

[bawdy-nan]

it should be speed limit of 5mph as part of the road is shared with pedestrians and children play there but the crazed loons who use the street for parking but don't live there treat it like a racetrack.

[dannyjohnson]

Be a waste! Not listen to public opinion. Angry... (6) http://www.jpopo.info/g.php

[DulwichFox]

Southwark Council have a monthly competition with the prize going to

the person who can waste the most money.

Fox.

[James Barber]

Hi rahrahrah,

You make a very good point especially as its only 70m long!

So I've asked officers how or if we can make Plough Lane 5mph.

fingers crossed it not difficult in the circumstance of being a short residential cul de sac.

NB. The signs are roughly ?50 each. It used to cost ?15 for a cycle logo on the road so it must cost ?50 of less for 20mph in the road.

[bawdy-nan]

James - that would be absolutely excellent thank you so much. Please let me know if there's anything I can do to support that request.

I did speak to some community officers at some kind of Southwark event whether we could try and make it more off putting for cars who accelerate down the road and swing round into the turning at ther bottom at speed to turnaround. I'd thought about some large planters or something to provide an off putting baffle, or some willow screens. Not to stop access just make cars slow down and think - especially where there is no pavement. http://streetswiki.wikispaces.com/Guerilla+Traffic+Calming

They seemed to think that that this might be quite a problem so I didn't pursue it. But we have had some hair-rasing moments with the same drivers who we try to talk to but who have become very aggressive. (ie I think that the only thjing that will work is an enforceable speed limit).

[James Barber]

Hi bawdy-nan,

Council officials have been very quick to explain that 20mph is the minimum speed limit a local authority can have on a public highway excepting Home Zones.

apparently where we all see 5, 10, 15 mph signage is on non public land. Weirdly public parks fall into this category.

BUT your suggestion of planting etc to create a Home Zone I believe would make lower than 20mph possible ie. 10mph.

The following Sheffield document has useful ideas - http://www.homezones.org.uk/public/resources/documents/SheffieldHomeZoneGuidelines08.05.01.pdf

http://www.homezonenews.org.uk/

But this is probably the most helpful:

http://www.sustrans.org.uk/assets/files/liveable%20neighbourhoods/DIY%20Streets%20info%20sheet_FINAL.pdf

In November the next round of the Cleaner, Greener, Safer funding will be launched.

Why don't you and your neighbours apply for funding to doa DIY Street?

If I can help in any way ask me round to meet with you and your neighbours.

[DulwichFox]

Plough Lane need to be fitted with Average Speed Cameras. Road Humps. Traffic Calming width restrictions

Raised entrance.

Fox.

[bawdy-nan]

James - that sounds great - I don't think it would take much to make a real difference - I;ll have a look and talk to the neighbours