Halal and Kosher Meat, your thoughts

[Thomas Micklewright]

I see it now, it didnt show on my phone.

Childish? I dont think environmental destruction, deforestation and the desecration of our seas is a childish subject.

[El Pibe]

If it quacks like an evanegelical duck and waddles like one....

The only thing that keeps us safe is that the smell of bbqs stops you burning meat eaters at the stake ;)

[Huguenot]

Nah Thomas, it isn't the desire to save the planet that's childish - it's the manipulative behaviour and petty half truths from propaganda leaflets.

[AllanMcPR]

I agree a lot of publicity out there and no one knows what will happen.

[Thomas Micklewright]

How else do you advise I encourage people to think a little more about the planet?

I'm all ears! If ipeople responded to the polite request 'please stop destroying the earth' I wouldn't have started the dvvs would I?

Tom

[Annette Curtain]

Thomas

I've stopped eating wheat, does that count?

NETTE:-S

[Huguenot]

Ah, Thomas - it sounds like you're looking for a little coaching?

Here's what Dale Carnegie thought to be the best strategies (and look at how it contrasts with your pushy deceptions and manipulations)...

Fundamental Techniques in Handling People

Don't criticize, condemn, or complain.

Give honest and sincere appreciation.

Arouse in the other person an eager want.

Six Ways to Make People Like You

Become genuinely interested in other people.

Smile.

Remember that a person's name is, to that person, the sweetest and most important sound in any language.

Be a good listener. Encourage others to talk about themselves.

Talk in terms of the other person's interest.

Make the other person feel important ? and do it sincerely.

Twelve Ways to Win People to Your Way of Thinking

The only way to get the best of an argument is to avoid it.

Show respect for the other person's opinions. Never say "You're Wrong."

If you're wrong, admit it quickly and emphatically.

Begin in a friendly way.

Start with questions to which the other person will answer yes.

Let the other person do a great deal of the talking.

Let the other person feel the idea is his or hers.

Try honestly to see things from the other person's point of view.

Be sympathetic with the other person's ideas and desires.

Appeal to the nobler motives.

Dramatize your ideas.

Throw down a challenge.

Be a Leader: How to Change People Without Giving Offense or Arousing Resentment

Begin with praise and honest appreciation.

Call attention to people's mistakes indirectly.

Talk about your own mistakes before criticizing the other person.

Ask questions instead of giving direct orders.

Let the other person save face.

Praise every improvement.

Give the other person a fine reputation to live up to.

Use encouragement. Make the fault seem easy to correct.

Make the other person happy about doing what you suggest.

[Thomas Micklewright]

Well done Nette for giving up wheat - ill follow your footsteps soon.

Thanks H, *smiles*, so what do you do for a living?

[nashoi]

Thomas, why so worried?

We already produce enough food to feed 11bn people and waste a third of it. In India a third of food rots before it gets to market because of poor roads and refrigeration and this is where most population increase will occur. Hardly beyond the wit of man to sort that out surely?

Talking of the wit of man (or woman) does separating carbon from oxygen really sound like the hardest challenge we've faced? Some bloke in Australia already reckons he's got a way of doing it using the another byproduct of power generation, steam. So burn coal, of which we have abundant supplies, and end up with oxygen and graphite which can be dumped anywhere. If not coal, why not trees? Farm them, thus absorbing carbon already up there, then in the furnace you go. So that's global warming and population expansion taken care of and I'm not even that pissed.

Yes, you did read me right, I said an Australian, so probably bullshit, but if not him then someone soon. The added advantage of producing graphite is you can produce graphene from it and that Thomas, is what your generation are going to build the future from. So go and get pissed eat a big steak and stop worrying it's all being taken care of.

Anyone wishing to comment on any of the above please remember nitpicking is such an unattractive habit.

[Loz]

nashoi Wrote:

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> Yes, you did read me right, I said an Australian,

> so probably bullshit, but if not him then someone soon.

Can I be the first from that fine country Down Under to take offence at this piece of casual racism?

[nashoi]

Sorry if it caused offence Loz, it was meant in the spirit of the usual banter between our countries, but in the more sober light of day I'm happy to a knowledge the Aussies are at the forefront of a number of technologies we're going to need, desalination for example.

[DaveR]

Crikey, those Aussies are pretty sensitive too!