AnotherPaul Posted December 17, 2018 Share Posted December 17, 2018 The UCKG are a commercial church whose owner is worth 1.1bn USD with more controversial stories including its' pre-election support for the new fascist leader of Brasil, and yet they are collecting money in our local Lordship Lane M&S. Surely M&S could have found a local charity free of dodgy attitudes to invite collect? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Universal_Church_of_the_Kingdom_of_GodSo please, this Christmas, don't give fascist sympathisers your money. Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/213073-uckg-church-fundraising-in-ms/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sue Posted December 17, 2018 Share Posted December 17, 2018 Wouldn't it be better to raise this with M&S if it concerns you? Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/213073-uckg-church-fundraising-in-ms/#findComment-1301740 Share on other sites More sharing options...
AnotherPaul Posted December 17, 2018 Author Share Posted December 17, 2018 Thanks for your concern but I have raised this issue with M&S and will let you know how that goes. But I thought seeing as the shop is a public space others might do with knowing a little of the background to who they are. Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/213073-uckg-church-fundraising-in-ms/#findComment-1301742 Share on other sites More sharing options...
AnotherPaul Posted December 17, 2018 Author Share Posted December 17, 2018 M&S have a policy which allows individual store managers to choose who collects for charity in their shops. I'd wager the UCKG knows this, according to the internet they've also been collecting in M&S Dalston. Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/213073-uckg-church-fundraising-in-ms/#findComment-1301748 Share on other sites More sharing options...
nxjen Posted December 17, 2018 Share Posted December 17, 2018 Thanks for the heads up. It's very easy, especially at this time of year, to donate to charities that some of us would rather not if we had more information. Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/213073-uckg-church-fundraising-in-ms/#findComment-1301755 Share on other sites More sharing options...
nods Posted December 17, 2018 Share Posted December 17, 2018 Yep, Thanks for the heads up . Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/213073-uckg-church-fundraising-in-ms/#findComment-1301774 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jennys Posted December 17, 2018 Share Posted December 17, 2018 Oh dear I gave them a donation the other day because I felt sorry for the girl belting out Rudolph the Red Nosed Reindeer with some mistakes in the lyrics and slightly off key at times. Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/213073-uckg-church-fundraising-in-ms/#findComment-1301779 Share on other sites More sharing options...
alice Posted December 17, 2018 Share Posted December 17, 2018 The money isn?t being sent to Brazil. They do a lot of good work locally. Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/213073-uckg-church-fundraising-in-ms/#findComment-1301831 Share on other sites More sharing options...
siousxiesue Posted December 17, 2018 Share Posted December 17, 2018 AnotherPaul Wrote:-------------------------------------------------------> M&S have a policy which allows individual store> managers to choose who collects for charity in> their shops. I'd wager the UCKG knows this,> according to the internet they've also been> collecting in M&S Dalston.But their official charity partner is a youth group locally, surely they could be allowed to collect instead? Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/213073-uckg-church-fundraising-in-ms/#findComment-1301836 Share on other sites More sharing options...
yorksgirl Posted December 18, 2018 Share Posted December 18, 2018 Thank you for alerting us to who this is, I agree, if the head of this organisation supports the vile ultra extreme views of the new Brazilian leader, Bolsonaro, I am grateful you pointed out who they are. Glad I did not give them anything. And given the origins of M + S I am very surprised they are letting this group onto their premises. Really do not feel like going in again until they are gone. Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/213073-uckg-church-fundraising-in-ms/#findComment-1301894 Share on other sites More sharing options...
AnotherPaul Posted December 18, 2018 Author Share Posted December 18, 2018 alice Wrote:-------------------------------------------------------> The money isn?t being sent to Brazil. They do a> lot of good work locally.I appreciate your sincerity but that's not my point. They (the church, not the individuals in M&S) support actual fascists to help them win power and set themselves against the religions of indigenous people of the Amazon. That's Christians running a highly profitable commercial church which has been repeatedly accused of money laundering, telling people whose ancestral land it is they are wrong to hold their own beliefs. There is no local work they can do which assuages their behaviour elsewhere. Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/213073-uckg-church-fundraising-in-ms/#findComment-1301897 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Abe_froeman Posted December 18, 2018 Share Posted December 18, 2018 The part of that wikipedia article about Victoria Climbi? is particularly concerning Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/213073-uckg-church-fundraising-in-ms/#findComment-1302021 Share on other sites More sharing options...
alice Posted December 18, 2018 Share Posted December 18, 2018 Maybe read the climbie / guardian article Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/213073-uckg-church-fundraising-in-ms/#findComment-1302023 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cora Posted December 18, 2018 Share Posted December 18, 2018 I'm assuming they said yes to the offer of collector's to put off the massive issue they have with shoplifting. If you have an email of who to contact about their choice of 'charity' happy to email against their presence. Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/213073-uckg-church-fundraising-in-ms/#findComment-1302096 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Earl Aelfheah Posted December 19, 2018 Share Posted December 19, 2018 That church sounds very dodgy indeed. Thanks for the heads up. Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/213073-uckg-church-fundraising-in-ms/#findComment-1302155 Share on other sites More sharing options...
AnotherPaul Posted December 20, 2018 Author Share Posted December 20, 2018 To register a complaint with M&S, their retail customer line is 0333 014 8555. There is no email address. Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/213073-uckg-church-fundraising-in-ms/#findComment-1302313 Share on other sites More sharing options...
RickB Posted December 20, 2018 Share Posted December 20, 2018 I sent a message via the website and received this from [email protected] ...Dear Mr ******,Thank you for taking the time to get in touch with us.We are currently reviewing our policy in all stores regarding this.Thank you again for your feedback. Kind regardsL**** ******Retail Customer ServicesYour M&S Customer Service Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/213073-uckg-church-fundraising-in-ms/#findComment-1302385 Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnL Posted December 20, 2018 Share Posted December 20, 2018 They never ask me for moneyThey always ask when I'll be joining them at their service :)Edit: I'm a sinnerman you see Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/213073-uckg-church-fundraising-in-ms/#findComment-1302412 Share on other sites More sharing options...
uncleglen Posted December 20, 2018 Share Posted December 20, 2018 Here's a message from its founder Edir mercadohttps://blogs.universal.org/bispomacedo/en/2011/05/19/our-children-will-not-turn-out-to-be-gay/should be banned imho Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/213073-uckg-church-fundraising-in-ms/#findComment-1302426 Share on other sites More sharing options...
rendelharris Posted December 20, 2018 Share Posted December 20, 2018 uncleglen Wrote:-------------------------------------------------------> Here's a message from its founder Edir mercado> https://blogs.universal.org/bispomacedo/en/2011/05> /19/our-children-will-not-turn-out-to-be-gay/> > should be banned imhoCertainly should. And so should your mate Tommy Robinson's hate organisations and similar entities that you're quite happy to support - what's the difference in hatred apart from skin pigmentation? Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/213073-uckg-church-fundraising-in-ms/#findComment-1302442 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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