Euro 2012

[El Pibe]

It still wasn't a tight game. Italy were thoroughly defeated by the time they lost Motta.

For someone who bleats on about what deep insights from a stellar playing career you need to perform pre match analysis of note, you didn't half come out with hackneyed pundit cliches did you, all you left out was 'at the end of the day'!

[Otta]

Can I just chip in here with YOU CAN NOT ANALYSE SOMETHING THAT IS YET TO HAPPEN!!!!!

You can analyse your opinent's recent form and tacticts, and try to plan around how you think they will play. Pundits can "preview" a match, but you can't bloody well analyse it, because IT IS IN THE FUTURE!!!!

Sorry, just been trying not to have that rant since yesterday, but I'm a broken man now.

[Otta]

Oh, and UDT, serious question. Have you ever in your life just held your hands up and said "yeah I got that one wrong?

[*Bob*]

No, it was definitely a tight game.

IT WAS A TIGHT GAME

IT WAS A TIGHT GAME

TIGHT.. TIGHT.. TIGH.... Bzzzzzzt (bang)

[Undisputedtruth]

El Pibe Wrote:

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> It still wasn't a tight game. Italy were

> thoroughly defeated by the time they lost Motta.

>

> For someone who bleats on about what deep insights

> from a stellar playing career you need to perform

> pre match analysis of note, you didn't half come

> out with hackneyed pundit cliches did you, all you

> left out was 'at the end of the day'!

From a footballing point of view I was disappointed that it wasn't a tight game. I knew Spain was going to win within the first two minutes of watching the game. They just looked that much sharper and Italy looked a bit tired and probably carrying injuries.

[*Bob*]

Was it a game of two halves, UDT?

[Undisputedtruth]

@Otta

From your limited view of the game, I'd imagine whatever I say is not going to make sense to you. But as I like talking about things such as tactics, quality of players and playing surfaces, then all of these are used for pre-match analysis. Am I wrong just because you don't understand the game? Perhaps I'm wrong because I don't understand don't know any better logic?

[*Bob*]

Was it a great advert for the game, UDT?

[Otta]

No, you're just wrong because you can't analyse something that doesn't yet exist.

And because you said it would be a tight match. Now there is no shame in that, it doesn't actually matter one little bit in the great scheme of things. People just find it funny that you can't hold your hands up.

[*Bob*]

Was it an (insert inane meaningless footballing cliche here) UDT?

[Otta]

I have to say, that I thought it would be a lot tighter than it was, given Italy's 2 previous performances, but I don't know any better.

What is astounding, is that after talking about things such as tactics, quality of players and playing surfaces, UDT still didn't know any better. What a pointless exercise, being as 2 minutes in you knew it had all been for nought.

[Jeremy]

Otta, that's exactly what I'd expect you to say, given your limited knowledge of the game.

[Mick Mac]

Posession wise Italy did much better against Spain than other teams, posession was quoted as 50:50 with not much of the game to go.

On this occaision Spain took their chances very well. Italy generally shooting from distance.

It was good to watch, probably the first international final for some time that did not disappoint.

[Undisputedtruth]

Absolutey Jeremy. What Otta doesn't realise is that form, tactics, injuries and starting well have a huge bearing on a game.

[*Bob*]

Undisputedtruth Wrote:

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> Absolutey Jeremy.

UDT - check your 'somebody is taking the piss out of me' filter. It's off (again)

[Undisputedtruth]

*Bob* Wrote:

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> Undisputedtruth Wrote:

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> > Absolutey Jeremy.

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> UDT - check your 'somebody is taking the piss out

> of me' filter. It's off (again)

Perhaps in don't any better logic terms but definitely not in football terms. Anyway Bob, how long do think you can keep your tirade before you give up? I think five years.

[*Bob*]

Ooh, I dunno. As long as you continue to behave like an absolute tit?

[DaveR]

There's a significant volume of evidence that the predictions of experts are far less reliable than either statistical modelling or the collective views of apparently less well-informed groups of non-experts. (Anybody who listened to Mark Lawrenson's "expert" contributions to the BBC commentary on the final will have acquired their own little bit of empirical evidence to support this conclusion.) So there is a proper scientific basis for pointing out that UDT is indeed behaving like a tit, which is heartening.

[Otta]

Undisputedtruth Wrote:

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> Absolutey Jeremy. What Otta doesn't realise is

> that form, tactics, injuries and starting well

> have a huge bearing on a game.

And yet you still called it completely wrong, that is the point UDT!

[El Pibe]

Undisputedtruth Wrote:

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> @Otta

>

> From your limited view of the game, I'd imagine

> whatever I say is not going to make sense to you.

> But as I like talking about things such as

> tactics, quality of players and playing surfaces,

> then all of these are used for pre-match analysis.

> Am I wrong just because you don't understand the

> game? Perhaps I'm wrong because I don't understand

> don't know any better logic?

Bizarre logic indeed.

Otta could believe he was an ewok and that the world is made of oompah loompahs (and I know for a FACT that he DOES believe the former!).

It has no bearing on whether your prediction was right or wrong UDT.

Which was it again? Go on, just say it this once....

[Alan Medic]

I would now like to nominate myself as the leading football expert on this thread. Well, after *Bob* that is. Having done a detailed pre match analysis yesterday not only did I predict who would score the first goal, I got paid for it. That makes me a professional I reckon. Was anyone else able to go into such fine detail while pre analysing the game? Bet not.

[*Bob*]

When's the World Cup? I can't wait. It's been emotional.

[Jeremy]

Who fancies doing an analysis of the 2014 world cup?

[Jah Lush]

Undisputedtruth Wrote:

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What Otta doesn't realise is

> that form, tactics, injuries and starting well

> have a huge bearing on a game.

All of this can often go out the window too. For instance Tottenham Hotspur three-nil up at half-time at home to Man Utd and still lose 5-3. Or more recently Tottenham 12pts clear of the Arse, unbeaten in ages and two-nil up at the Effemanites last season and losing 5-2. As Jimmy Greaves once said - "It's a funny old game".

[Undisputedtruth]

A scoreline isn't always an indicator of performance. I remember when we beat another side 19 nil. Our coach was furious because we didn't perform to our best capability. We lost our shape as we were rushing to score goals.