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???? Wrote:

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> I'm pretty nuetral on it all but to be honest I'm

> mainly glad it's all over so we can escape the

> rather posed and tedious 'republican' moaning of

> the last few days


...oh no that was absolutely the best bit about the whole thing, some comments were really nutty, laugh out loud, green-ink specials. No doubt I'll be branded a Monarchist or Royalist for saying so :-S

Annette Curtain Wrote:

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> Oh lordy Fox

>

>

>

> Maybe we should just hang out the white flag and

> give in now

>

> Nette:-S


I will go down with this ship

And I won't put my hands up and surrender

There will be no white flag above my door

I'm in love and always will be


Sitting with my Rose Tinted Spectacles.


Foxy

DulwichFox Wrote:

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> Whilst on the subject of Racism let us take a look at The Union Jack.

>

> Symbol of Empire and Imperialism. Of Oppression and adopted by ultra right wing extreem groups of

> Racists.

>

> It is outdated and has no place in this day and age..


Your first points are a discussion all of their own, but regarding the adoption of the Union *Flag* (!) by ultra right wing extreme groups, then I disagree. It should be reclaimed, not handed over. Abandoning it wouldn't change anything - look at how long the Confederate Flag has survived.


Anyway, I though the Mall looked amazing decked out end to end with the flag. And that is coming from an Aussie. Usually British and English flag waving is a tedious exercise in breast-beating (mainly due to it being sport related), but the Jubilee weekend was just a wonderful celebration of Britishness. It was a rare joy.

DulwichFox Wrote:

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> Whilst on the subject of Racism let us take a look

> at The Union Jack.

>

> Symbol of Empire and Imperialism. Of Oppression

> and adopted by ultra right wing extreem groups of

> Racists.

>

> It is outdated and has no place in this day and

> age..

>

> In 1606, the first Union Jack flag was created by

> merging the English flag

> (the red cross of Saint George)

> with the Scottish flag

> (the diagonal white cross of Saint Andrew on a

> blue background).

> Then, in 1801, the addition of Ireland to the

> United Kingdom added the Irish flag to the flag

> (the red Saint Patrick's cross).

>

> And with Scotland on the verge of Independence,

> the flag may soon have to go..

>

> Fox.



...or just be remodelled the way the Scots wanted it in 1618...http://www.know-britain.com/general/images/british_flag_scottish_version.gif



PS. @Loz... a bit of an urban (national?) myth... usage has meant that the name Union Jack is quite correct when referring to the national flag - it hasn't needed to be fixed to a jack staff to qualify for the name and was approved by parliament when it said in 1908 "the Union Jack should be regarded as the National flag".

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