Jump to content

Recommended Posts

Just for clarification, it's been said that there are about 50 schools that are within a couple of miles of where this incident took place. Can somebody please list any other schools that sent out an urgent warning message to parents to report this "attempted abduction".


If it turns out that other schools (who knows, maybe 49 of them) didn't send out an urgent message on the day, should we be labelling all those schools as irresponsible for not having alerted all their parents about this dangerous incident? Or should we be pleased that they had a "proportionate" response?

Otta Wrote:

-------------------------------------------------------

> Maybe we should do neither, and just forget it and

> be happy that nothing nasty happened, and nobody

> has had their life ruined by receiving the text.

>

> Nothing to see here.


Yes, I think you are right.

I picked up a copy of the free paper that's outside William Rose - think it's the Southwark News. The story on the front page says that the adult offering a lift was in fact an off-duty policeman who thought the child looked distressed and so offered a lift. According to the story, the policeman has been spoken to (by superiors?) and now realises the upset his good intentions caused.
I don't think that's the point, Otta. The online world is quick to jump on "information" which can quickly become "fact". It's important from the point of view of crime and how people perceive crime that it's understood that this was an extremely ill-advised attempt to help a child and not an attempted abduction where "a man tried to abduct a Yr 6 child on his way to a local school".

I had a message yesterday from Heber "5 children have arrived safely for the residential trip"


As there were thirty five children (and nothing on the news) on the trip I assumed the word "Year " fell off the front of the Message due to a glitch with the BT telling bone.

The point I was making, apparently now with some more evidence, is that the only thing that was known to have happened was an attempted offer of a lift. I have never said that the school wasn't right to act with caution, only that the clear and absolute claims of an attempted abduction didn't seem to stand up - as apparently they didn't.


And that just because Heber (not a direct party to the event] said it was an attempted abduction didn't necessarily make it so.


As it turns out, it would seem that the 'no smoke without fire' brigade were, in this instance, wrong, which doesn't mean that I think we should throw all caution to the winds, but does perhaps mean we should not insist a spade is a mechanised 40 ton digger on the rumour that earth might have been shifted, and without further evidence.

Jeremy Wrote:

-------------------------------------------------------

> I find it hard to

> believe that any adult would be naive enough to

> offer an innocent lift to a child they'd never met

> before.


I still stand by this. While I have (thankfully) been proved wrong, I still find it incredible that a stranger would offer a lift to a child. He should have known that it would freak out the poor boy.

I have a friend who is a senior police officer and says you are never really off-duty. I can imagine that he would certainly stop for a child alone who looked upset to make sure they were OK. His daughters get embarrassed when he forgets he's not in uniform and he says it's very easy to do.

Create an account or sign in to comment

You need to be a member in order to leave a comment

Create an account

Sign up for a new account in our community. It's easy!

Register a new account

Sign in

Already have an account? Sign in here.

Sign In Now
  • Latest Discussions

    • It was open yesterday evening (Saturday) and fairly busy, too.
    • Has she been out before?  Bengals love to explore and have a high prey drive.  Put her litter tray and bed outside which may help her to find her way home.
    • Hello I have been with EE for years -10 ? - never had a single outage which is great when WFH. I had virgin before and it was terrible - so many outages - I live on Whateley Road - hope this is helpful 
    • This may be somewhat out of date but virtually no environmental benefit & almost entirely grass... really? https://www.gigl.org.uk/sinc/sobi09/ Description Peckham Rye was established as an open space in the late 19th century and includes several valuable habitat features spread across the park. The park is a Grade II Listed landscape, and has recently been restored with assistance from the Heritage Lottery Fund. A small community garden within the site is managed by the Friends of Peckham Rye. Peckham Rye Park won a Green Flag Award again for 2022. The site is used by the Southwark Health Walks project as part of a Walking the Way to Health (WHI) scheme. Wildlife This large park has several valuable habitat features. The most important of these is the only remaining above-ground section of the River Peck and the most natural stream in the borough. The stream is heavily shaded by native, unmanaged wet woodland dominated by alder, ash and pedunculated oak with a ground cover of pendulous sedge and bramble. Alder dominated woodland is a rare habitat in Southwark. Although somewhat altered with weirs, other artificial structures and ornamental planting, some sections are still in their natural banks and includes yellow flag, watercress, water figwort and cuckooflower. The largest of three ponds supports marginal vegetation including hemp agrimony. A variety of waterfowl nest on the wooded island, including tufted duck, coot, Canada goose and mallard. Substantial flocks of gulls visit the park in winter and bats are likely to forage over the water. Small blocks of predominantly native woodland, mostly on the boundary between the Park and the Common, are dominated by oak and ash with a well-developed understory, but sparse ground flora. Spring bulbs have been planted in previous years. These and several dense shrubberies support a good bird population and small numbers of pipistrelle bats are present. Infrequently mown grassland is located in one large area and was seeded in 2009. It's composition includes giant fescue, ladies bedstraw, meadowsweet, black knapweed and wild carrot. The rest of the park consists of amenity grassland with some fine mature trees.  
Home
Events
Sign In

Sign In



Or sign in with one of these services

Search
×
    Search In
×
×
  • Create New...