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It?s not our borders that are the problem.


Macron playing silly buggers because his presidency is shaky and he?s hoping for re-election is inconveniencing many EU lorry drivers not to mention French exporters.


Silly billy Emmanuel Jean-Michel Fr?d?ric

keano77 Wrote:

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> It?s not our borders that are the problem.

>

> Macron playing silly buggers because his

> presidency is shaky and he?s hoping for

> re-election is inconveniencing many EU lorry

> drivers not to mention French exporters.

>

> Silly billy Emmanuel Jean-Michel Fr?d?ric


If Macron has that much power over us lets just elevate him to the House of Lords where he obviously belongs with Claire, Alexander and Peter Cruddas. Maybe he can do Prime Minister as a sideline.

diable rouge Wrote:

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> The 1500+ lorry jam shows the folly of 'taking

> back control of our borders'.

> Borders are shared, and Brexiters waving their

> magic sovereignty wand doesn't make a blind bit of

> difference...


We haven't left yet.

The lorry drivers will be well employed in the eu and extremely reluctant to do trips to the U.K. in future. That?s the lesson to learn here


We haven?t left yet - we are just a few working days away from ending transition. But the testing before the end date and the new strain have illustrated the problems with the uks notion of sovereignty


Speaking of sovereignty, france is utilising theirs, despite being bound by their slave masters. Or whatever keano is calling them this week


And still, and still leavers are doubling down blaming everyone but themselves for the decisions they have made and learning nothing. It?s all still ?prosper mightily? and ?over by Christmas? and still you believe.

TheCat Wrote:

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> diable rouge Wrote:

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> > The 1500+ lorry jam shows the folly of 'taking

> > back control of our borders'.

> > Borders are shared, and Brexiters waving their

> > magic sovereignty wand doesn't make a blind bit

> of

> > difference...

>

> We haven't left yet.


Actually, we have. We left the EU at the end of Jan this year, that was Brexit.

The 11 month transition period we're in now is to allow for finalizing a trade deal and also to allow all parties/businesses etc to get ready for a deal...

It isn't just Macron who has reacted to the new variant in the UK, but more than half a dozen other countries too, with travelers from the UK also banned for now. Macron can not be accused of playing games here (Brexit level) given the effort to find a workable and safe way to get the lorries moving again asap. All of these countries have their own ongoing challenges with the pandemic and are acting in the best interests of their own public health structures.


I think we have to be careful to not conflate the real challenges of the pandemic, with the real challenges of Brexit. Brexit is its own beast with everything negotiable. There is no negotiating with a virus.

diable rouge Wrote:

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> TheCat Wrote:

> --------------------------------------------------

> -----

> > diable rouge Wrote:

> >

> --------------------------------------------------

>

> > -----

> > > The 1500+ lorry jam shows the folly of

> 'taking

> > > back control of our borders'.

> > > Borders are shared, and Brexiters waving

> their

> > > magic sovereignty wand doesn't make a blind

> bit

> > of

> > > difference...

> >

> > We haven't left yet.

>

> Actually, we have. We left the EU at the end of

> Jan this year, that was Brexit.

> The 11 month transition period we're in now is to

> allow for finalizing a trade deal and also to

> allow all parties/businesses etc to get ready for

> a deal...


Thanks for the explanation, it's so difficult to keep up with the changing stories as to whether we have left or not depending on what argument people want to make on any given day.....

Trinnydad Wrote:

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> The style is very similar and BB has been accused of

> multiple IDs before.



It's been a while since BB was accused of multiple IDs, I'm guessing before your time as Trinnydad.

If that's the case, care to tell us what you're previous ID('s) were?...

Trinnydad Wrote:

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> Is Blah Blah masquerading as Sephiroth? The style

> is very similar and BB has been accused of

> multiple IDs before.



No, not Sephiroth.


But.


It's very easy to change your forum name, bite your tongue on occasion and invent a whole new back story.


It's very much harder to change the way you write.


Just saying.


ETA: Oh, and quickly delete those posts where you forget yourself and give yourself away in the middle of the night.


Or on occasion have those posts deleted by admin.

Sue Wrote:

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> Trinnydad Wrote:

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> > Is Blah Blah masquerading as Sephiroth? The

> style

> > is very similar and BB has been accused of

> > multiple IDs before.

>

>

> No, not Sephiroth.

>

> But.

>

> It's very easy to change your forum name, bite

> your tongue on occasion and invent a whole new

> back story.

>

> It's very much harder to change the way you

> write.

>

> Just saying.

>

> ETA: Oh, and quickly delete those posts where you

> forget yourself and give yourself away in the

> middle of the night.

>

> Or on occasion have those posts deleted by admin.



I think Admin can see IP addresses of posters - so the games up if they have the same IP all the time (of course users then claim they are flat mates and share an internet connection).

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