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This is not my fault. Someone else mentioned trolleybuses first.


The London Transport Passenger Board had a ?southern conversion programme? to replace South London trams with trolleybuses.


STAGE 6 trolleybus routes:


Route 556 replacing trams 56/62/84 Forest Hill to Peckham Rye via Westminster

Route 560 replacing tram 60 Goose Green to City (Mon-Sat peaks only)

Route 562 replacing trams 56/62/84 Peckham Rye to Forest Hill via Blackfriars


All trolleybuses were to be operated out of a converted Camberwell depot.


In July 1939 the London Transport Passenger Board accepted that STAGE 6 might be delayed because of ?events?. Ten STAGE 6 training trolleybuses were ordered in September 1939 and ?desultory? work continued on planning electricity sub-stations until January 1940. The work then stopped.


After a review completed in April 1946 (the Menzler Report) concluded that motor buses were a more cost efficient replacement for the trams,the plans were aborted, and a public announcement made on 15 November 1946.


John K

Were trams replaced by trolley buses elsewhere during this period?


Also, interesting to note in the light of James Barber's support for the tram project that as early as 1946 the authorities realised motor buses were more cost efficient.

This was the Tram Depot in Cambertwell New Road next to the Railway Arch.

It could have been Trolly Busses. But they did not come.


Air-raid damage at Camberwell tram depot caused by a flying bomb. Building material is heaped in the foreground and midground between the vehicles.


Photographed by Topical Press, 17 Jun 1944


Location: Camberwell tram depot, Southwark, SE5

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fuel_efficiency_in_transportation


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Who_Killed_the_Electric_Car%3F


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/General_Motors_streetcar_conspiracy


The more people use public transit the cheaper and better it is, the more room there will be on the streets for driving and parking, the easier "essential" car journies will be


It is historic fact that the interests of petrol and petrol driven cars have repeatedly derailed other transit


some ideologies aren't happy with "win / win" they want "zero / sum" where only they end up on top

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