The UDT Quote Thread!

[LondonLogCo]

Who was that bloke who was writing the article on forums & their users

Jack Russell?

It looks like his work

Very funny though

However, I so want him to be real

[El Pibe]

Jack russel, was he the trees guy?

[El Pibe]

jrussel, it's all coming back now, good times

http://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/forum/read.php?20,517301,page=1

Naa, he was rather obvious wasn't he.

Yay, it was the trees

http://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/forum/read.php?20,144087,page=1

[Atticus]

This thread is nothing short of school-yard bullying.

[LondonLogCo]

They were the days

I liked him

[StraferJack]

really Atticus? You think my point a few posts back has no merit?

If someone started a "seanmacgabhann/straferjack" thread and took the mick out of me, that would be bullying?

[El Pibe]

:-O

Strafer Jack is SeanMcghabahanh?!?!?

[*Bob*]

When you're a delusional narcissist, a thread devoted to simply quoting your own brilliance back at you - whilst simultaneously securing yourself a greater audience - will only really be seen and taken as a compliment..

If I'm wrong, of course, UDT is more than welcome to 'report his own posts as ridiculous' (is there a button for that?) and the whole thing can duly disappear.

[Atticus]

It smacks of 'let's all pile in', safety in numbers etc... A whole thread devoted to this simply isn't necessary. From what I hear school kids now set up Facebook pages titled 'Fred Bloggs is a prick'. Fred mightn't be the most popular in class and might act like an idiot at times but he doesn't deserve that.

[StraferJack]

unless Fred Bloggs IS.. y'know...

Forget this thread for a moment and go read the various threads UDT plays a part in - he/she is clearly upsetting a lot of people, it's obvious to anyone reading them (not saying I always disagree with him/her either btw)

Compared to the vitriol on those threads, this particular one is almost affectionate

Also, with facebook you can see who Fred Bloggs is and he becomes a target. UDT is ensconsed safely in anonymity so no-one can "bully" them in real life.

UDt could say "hey hold off guys - it's a bit much" - to which one could reasonably expect UDT to hold back a little bit on his general posting style - but he/she seems to relish the attention it causes

so no, I can't see the bullying here

[El Pibe]

I think playground bullying is where the troubled externalise their problems by taking it out on the weak and defenceless.

This to me looks like the natural inclination of people upon seeing someone persistently shouting "I'm brilliant and better than you" to (fruitlessly) get them to take themselves a little less seriously.

[Atticus]

Ok, then virtual school-yard bullying... it's still possible to bully, offend, compliment or admire whilst remaining anonymous, isn't it?

[StraferJack]

atticus - you aren't realy addressing my points

Being bullied needs an imbalance of power - go read UDT's threads and the people upset by him/her - I don't see any imbalance of power

It's the sheer number and content of their posts which has triggered this thread (which, as I say, seems almost affectionate compared to the threads UDT is actually involved in)

But I'm open to being convinced otherwise - I wouldn't want to be part of bullying anyone

[red devil]

bullying?..no

pricking the balloon of pomposity?..definitely

[Jeremy]

Atticus - UDT can speak for himself, if he feels this is bullying, then he should report it to admin and the thread will get deleted.

[Atticus]

UDT, it would appear is no shrinking violet. He might even enjoy being the centre of attention. Despite this, I still perceive this thread as bullying in nature, albeit school-yard and not intrinsically malicious (I hope). What next the dreaded 'B' word, banter???

[Otta]

I must admit I wasn't totally comfortable about this thread, but I don't think quoting exactly what someone has already put out there is bullying.

I don't think there is anything nasty on here, and I suspect UDT is actually quite pleased.

[Atticus]

I wouldn't be comfortable if reams of quotes of stuff I'd said were listed in a devoted thread here. Believe me I've spoken enough shite on here over the years.

[StraferJack]

therein lies the rub Atticus - you wouldn't be comfortable, and you have said so

Equally you have enough nous to read what you have read and see that it isn't all gold

ergo, it's highly unlikely anyone is going to start a thread about you, because you aren't acting like an eejit

But UDT is very aggressive in his/her general tone - he/she is an aggressor, not a victim

bringing up "banter" is interesting, recalling as it does Keys and Gray. They too claimed they were bullied and victimised after being sacked, but it was their own behaviour wot done it

[Guest]

I agree with Atticus. I remember having, or trying to have, this discussion with StraferJack before and getting nowhere, I think because you couldn't see that with bullying it's not just your own intentions that count: it's also about how other people perceive what you're doing, and not just the person who's the target.

In particular there's a lot of bullying masquerading as banter, but the fact you're 'just' having fun doesn't make it OK. There's a history of people using the Lounge to abuse other people on a personal level and gang up on them, and there are others who either have poor social skills or use the relative anonymity of the forum to be totally inconsiderate in how they express themselves - whenever I meet new people in ED and the forum comes up someone always mentions it, and there are forumites who don't use the Lounge for that reason. Personally after the last couple of days I'm now heading for the door (again).

[StraferJack]

I haven't said I'm "just having fun" nor I do I think I'm bantering

Given how much abuse UDT gives out I'm pretty shocked people see him/her as a victim

[Atticus]

the rub here is that I've had an opportunity to say I wouldn't be comfortable with it before it happens (should it happen). UDT had no such choice, regardless of whether he's arsed or not.

[*Bob*]

A pointless knotting of knickers.

To see this thread in any sort of malevolent light is is to completely misunderstand the dynamic that exists between UDT and.. A lot of our people. He's ON this thread, contributing to it, and ENJOYING it. Everyone's a winner. Unless you're steadfastly determined to be offended on someone else's behalf - when in fact they're more than happy to play.

Perhaps UDT is to be the last truly interesting thing about this place. Now there's a thought.

[El Pibe]

The rub is that noone feels the slighest urge to create one about you atticus.

The participants in this thread are long-standing members of the forum and have a long track record of being reasonalbe, thoughtful, measured and friendly.

Yeah there can be clashes and I guess a slightly acerbic sense of humour dominates but compared to many forums I've encountered this strikes a terrific balance between being welcoming and tolerant whilst generally avoiding being dull.

The fact that it has come to this, and that this is the only example of such in almost exactly 7 years of this forum (oh dear god has it been that long) and that the poster in question has been dealt with more harshly on other forums (it took him less than a week to get put on close moderation here after joining specifically to carry on an intractable argument on here with another poster and was banned from this one) should speak volumes.

[El Pibe]

You might be right Bob, you might be right.

It's like a bruise, it hurts but I can't help rubbing it at a time I'd more or less decided to give up on the forum altogether.