Is lockdown in ED basically over?

[seenbeen]

JohnL Wrote:

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> This is a description of the Kinnock visit - he

> kept his distance.

>

> https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2020/mar/29/s

> tephen-kinnock-targeted-by-police-for-visiting-fat

> her-neil

>

> The thing is the arrogance wasn't there he knew he

> had got away with it - you'd think Neil would look

> after himself still (and Glenys) :).

It was the 28th March....5 days after the start of the lockdown proper (23rd March), and what about the others- Ali, Evans? Kier Starmer is just a hypocrite

[Sephiroth]

Starmer is not leading the country (not yet anyway)

Don?t you get it. People follow the government message and actions. And there is the problem.

[JohnL]

Tweet of the week two days ago and I missed it

[gabys1st]

to Khans twice a week.

.......What precautions are Kahns taking re social distancing etc?

[gabys1st]

How safe do you feel in Khans? Thanks

[gabys1st]

Park in Peckham was full of folk in spite of all gates being locked. Peeps were passing kids over railings before climbing climbing over.

[intexasatthe moment]

why were the gates locked ?

[KidKruger]

Khans is basically a free-for-all.

They have some black and yellow sticky tape on the floor and the guys serving might be wearing gloves, but that's as far as it goes - after that you're on your own.

Customers squeezing up behind you in the aisles, leaning over you from behind to get parsley when you're looking at the aubergines, if you're loading-up at the till someone behind you waiting may well ignore the sticky tape markers on floor and be stood inches behind you, that kind of stuff.

The younger lads associated with the store or it's staff, are wandering around aimlessly with their heads in their phones oblivious to (or ignoring) customers' presence stuck behind them in aisles.

If you're going there, manage your expectations with this; there's no space, no distance keeping, no enforcement.

I go twice a week.

gabys1st Wrote:

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> to Khans twice a week.

> .......What precautions are Kahns taking re social

> distancing etc?

[Nigello]

Why go when you know it?s not enforcing regulations? I?d vote with my feet and walk out. Don?t underestimate the virus, please.

[uncleglen]

Sephiroth Wrote:

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> Starmer is not leading the country (not yet

> anyway)

>

> Don?t you get it. People follow the government

> message and actions. And there is the problem.

I personally get 'it' fine- people in the media and on the ED forum follow whatever the lefty, anti-government message is at that moment in time.

And the other people who don't even listen to the government, i.e. scientific message, do exactly what they want.

[malumbu]

To your earlier post, even Cummings didn't use the excuse that he was following Kinnock's lead. Shocking that your are even suggesting that a back bencher has as much importance as the bloke who de facto runs the government. A bit of a play ground argument, nah nah nah nah. As for lefties in East Dulwich, a Labour government would come under stick too if and when they get into power. Not as much as the Cummings government as there will be less things to dislike. But would still be subject to scrutiny and criticism from us champagne socialists.

[JohnL]

Talking of a Labour Government - Blair has been going on about ID cards again but this time globally and digitally to help recovery from Covid-19.

https://www.thenational.ae/world/tony-blair-calls-for-global-digital-ids-to-drive-recovery-from-coronavirus-shutdown-1.1031262

[JohnL]

uncleglen Wrote:

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> Sephiroth Wrote:

> --------------------------------------------------

> -----

> > Starmer is not leading the country (not yet

> > anyway)

> >

> > Don?t you get it. People follow the government

> > message and actions. And there is the problem.

>

> I personally get 'it' fine- people in the media

> and on the ED forum follow whatever the lefty,

> anti-government message is at that moment in

> time.

> And the other people who don't even listen to the

> government, i.e. scientific message, do exactly

> what they want.

LOL but who makes the left wing message we all follow, who is this world leader ? I suspect I can guess who it is.

[ianr]

> Why go when you know it?s not enforcing regulations?

There's no 2 metre distancing regulation in England. http://www.legislation.gov.uk/all?title=Coronavirus&text=%222%20metres%22

[JohnL]

ianr Wrote:

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> > Why go when you know it?s not enforcing

> regulations?

>

> There's no 2 metre distancing regulation in

> England.

> http://www.legislation.gov.uk/all?title=Coronaviru

> s&text=%222%20metres%22

Problem is - is it "advice" or is it "must" - confusing

If a policeman gives you a fixed penalty fine - what you gonna do though if it's that second bit below - could mean anything.

"The new fines, introduced on Thursday, can be imposed on anyone who refuses to follow a police instruction to go home if they are in a gathering of more than two people - or conducting themselves in a way that will increase the likelihood of spreading the virus to others."

(back in march though)

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-52066145