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And this is precisely why there are problems around politicians managing public health. Politicians are constantly thinking of how to stay or get elected. This skews everything. A second wave is coming. I think every agrees on that. How bad or easy it is to manage, will be entirely down to government preparations, but the spin almost certainly will seek to pit the people against the people, just as it always does. Be that left vs right, poor vs deserving poor, class division or those who abide by the rules, and those who don't. This government are experts at it. It is how they conned people into voting for Brexit after all.


Easing lockdown and reopening businesses where people can not socially distance effectively was always going to be difficult to be fair. And come the winter, when people can not eat and drink outside, what happens then? Many pubs are not even abiding by the government rules requiring contact details to be taken. Why? Because it is difficult to do that with people who are drinking on pavements only. You only have to look at the pictures of Soho last night to see why that might be. Anyone who has served in a busy bar knows how faffing about with registration forms was never going to work in the UK.

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> from the spoons website

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> "Breakfast served 6am ? 11.30am.

> Main menu served 11.30am ? 11pm."


https://www.jdwetherspoon.com/pubs/all-pubs/england/london/the-fox-on-the-hill-camberwell

Blah Blah Wrote:

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> And this is precisely why there are problems

> around politicians managing public health.

> Politicians are constantly thinking of how to stay

> or get elected. This skews everything. A second

> wave is coming. I think every agrees on that. How

> bad or easy it is to manage, will be entirely down

> to government preparations, but the spin almost

> certainly will seek to pit the people against the

> people, just as it always does. Be that left vs

> right, poor vs deserving poor, class division or

> those who abide by the rules, and those who don't.

> This government are experts at it. It is how they

> conned people into voting for Brexit after all.

>

> Easing lockdown and reopening businesses where

> people can not socially distance effectively was

> always going to be difficult to be fair. And come

> the winter, when people can not eat and drink

> outside, what happens then? Many pubs are not even

> abiding by the government rules requiring contact

> details to be taken. Why? Because it is difficult

> to do that with people who are drinking on

> pavements only. You only have to look at the

> pictures of Soho last night to see why that might

> be. Anyone who has served in a busy bar knows how

> faffing about with registration forms was never

> going to work in the UK.

I don't know where you were during the lockdown but there were many people flouting ALL the rules from day 1. I just got the impression that the guidelines were actually following the behaviour of the masses since the cops obviously couldn't 'police' the lockdown.

There has been a distinct lack of older people out and about because the younger ones have ignored the rules and so the older generation have looked after themselves.

If there is another spike then, like the state of the environment, it is down to the behaviour of the individuals.

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