Why have the traffic discussions been locked?

[tiddles]

I know they were all rather similar but why have they all been locked? Clearly a cause for concern for lots of forumites- apologies if admin had posted something somewhere

[nxjen]

No cause for concern for me, more of a relief

[ab29]

tiddles Wrote:

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> I know they were all rather similar but why have

> they all been locked? Clearly a cause for concern

> for lots of forumites- apologies if admin had

> posted something somewhere

Agree. One or two people made this suggestion - to lock it - and Admin gave in.

[nxjen]

All the threads have not been locked. You can still post on the original one about Permeable Barriers I.e. the roads off Grove Vale and also the original thread about Dulwich Village closures. All the subsequent threads that have been locked were repetitions of these. You have no idea how many complaints Admin received by DM and it has long been his practice to lock duplicate threads.

Anyway, as this thread should have been posted in the About the Forum section, it?s likely to be moved.

[Rockets]

I think admin needs to be careful on this as many of the new threads are being posted by people not, like myself, who have been at the heart of the debate and posting a lot. These threads are being started by forumites who are trying to express their views or get questions answered and you can't expect those all to be channelled into a single thread.

I was very surprised to see which ones were being locked and admin needs to be careful they are not being seen to suppress debate - which is what this forum is for after all.

You can't walk down Lordship Lane without hearing people complaining about the road closures so this forum is merely reflecting the feelings of many East Dulwich residents (for and against the closures).

Also this forum tends to be good at self policing and truly repetitive threads tend not to get responses and drop very quickly.

[nxjen]

Admin doesn?t need to be ?careful?, it?s his forum, why the threatening tone? I?m glad that many of the traffic threads have been closed, the subject has been overwhelming the forum and mainly limited to the same comparatively few posters which has put off a lot of visitors. There?s many other things to discuss.

[Rockets]

nxjen Wrote:

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> Admin doesn?t need to be ?careful?, it?s his

> forum, why the threatening tone? I?m glad that

> many of the traffic threads have been closed, the

> subject has been overwhelming the forum and mainly

> limited to the same comparatively few posters

> which has put off a lot of visitors. There?s many

> other things to discuss.

Oh deary me,...really... threatening tone...let me explain "be careful" for you: because they are setting a dangerous precedent by making decisions on what can or can't be discussed and where and when.

Everyone in Dulwich is talking about these closures and this forum reflects that.

[nxjen]

Not setting a precedent at all, there are two threads still open where the matter can be discussed. Even so, Admin?s forum, Admin?s rules. No everyone in Dulwich is not talking about the closures.

[KidKruger]

Still not a great choice of words, Rockets.

And I'm against road closures / signed the petition.

'Setting a dangerous precedent' is an improvement.

[jojobaby]

http://moderngov.southwark.gov.uk/mgEPetitionDisplay.aspx?id=500000049&fbclid=IwAR2EjciR7W9R82QIdwNFKWphihIGaFJb1D2slMeVlnCaLfCJoN2soOEoQsg

[tiddles]

Apologies - when I posted earlier all the threads seemed locked - I can see that there are still 2 that are not.

[Rockets]

The problem is people will often interpret words as they wish to see them! ;-)

[KidKruger]

And other people will be belligerent and refuse to own their own shit.

[Dogkennelhillbilly]

"You can't walk down Lordship Lane without hearing people complaining about the road closures"

Your experience may be different from other people's here. You are somewhat of an 'enthusiast' on this topic...

[tiddles]

-- moved topic --

[Administrator]

I believe there are still threads about traffic issues. Please let me know if I'm wrong.

[uncleglen]

Rockets Wrote:

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> I think admin needs to be careful on this as many

> of the new threads are being posted by people not,

> like myself, who have been at the heart of the

> debate and posting a lot. These threads are being

> started by forumites who are trying to express

> their views or get questions answered and you

> can't expect those all to be channelled into a

> single thread.

>

> I was very surprised to see which ones were being

> locked and admin needs to be careful they are not

> being seen to suppress debate - which is what this

> forum is for after all.

>

> You can't walk down Lordship Lane without hearing

> people complaining about the road closures so this

> forum is merely reflecting the feelings of many

> East Dulwich residents (for and against the

> closures).

>

> Also this forum tends to be good at self policing

> and truly repetitive threads tend not to get

> responses and drop very quickly.

Don't need admin to suppress debate on this forum...the blinkered few do a very good job of insulting people when they say things the 'few' don't like

[Rockets]

Admin, I hope you can see that the point I was making was that locking some threads on the basis of subject is a dangerous precedent to set and becomes difficult to police.

What for example if I had responded to DogKennelHillBilly about why I feel so passionately about the road closures? Would you then be forced to lock the thread about talking about why you locked the threads....the optics of that would not be good! ;-)

You have a really tough job and my view is the forum polices itself very efficiently without intervention and by blocking some new threads (some of which were completely legitimate posted by people who were trying to raise concerns linked to the closures) it becomes a very slippery slope.

Keep up the good work on everything else though!One thing I think we can all agree on is that it is great we have a forum and this subject has certainly been a catalyst for debate!

[KalamityKel]

Rockets Wrote:

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> Admin, I hope you can see that the point I was

> making was that locking some threads on the basis

> of subject is a dangerous precedent to set and

> becomes difficult to police.

>

> What for example if I had responded to

> DogKennelHillBilly about why I feel so

> passionately about the road closures? Would you

> then be forced to lock the thread about talking

> about why you locked the threads....the optics of

> that would not be good! ;-)

>

> You have a really tough job and my view is the

> forum polices itself very efficiently without

> intervention and by blocking some new threads

> (some of which were completely legitimate posted

> by people who were trying to raise concerns linked

> to the closures) it becomes a very slippery

> slope.

>

> Keep up the good work on everything else

> though!One thing I think we can all agree on is

> that it is great we have a forum and this subject

> has certainly been a catalyst for debate!

Erm... there are multiple threads all discussing the same topic. Nothing has been closed off because of the content/view point... that's not the wat of the EDF. There is no need to make an issue out of something that is not there

[JohnL]

It's all log jammed and that's only the threads LOL

[JohnL]

Rockets Wrote:

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> I think admin needs to be careful on this as many

> of the new threads are being posted by people not,

> like myself, who have been at the heart of the

> debate and posting a lot. These threads are being

> started by forumites who are trying to express

> their views or get questions answered and you

> can't expect those all to be channelled into a

> single thread.

>

> I was very surprised to see which ones were being

> locked and admin needs to be careful they are not

> being seen to suppress debate - which is what this

> forum is for after all.

>

> You can't walk down Lordship Lane without hearing

> people complaining about the road closures so this

> forum is merely reflecting the feelings of many

> East Dulwich residents (for and against the

> closures).

>

> Also this forum tends to be good at self policing

> and truly repetitive threads tend not to get

> responses and drop very quickly.

I thought generally people only start new threads by accident and use one once they know it's there. But if that's the way the cookie is crumbling :)

But as my old boss used to say "Reply to The Thread"

[malumbu]

This thread is rather surreal. Maybe I am dreaming. You'll have forgotten the 'transport chaos' in a few weeks.