death wish tring tring

[the-e-dealer]

As i drive around doing fatherly chores in the evening I often see at the very last minute a person riding on an expensive bone shaker. So expensive that they can't afford to buy lights. Is this a. Death wish and will darwin sort this menace out. Or should cars also have no lights.

[Salsaboy]

Only this afternoon as the sky was getting darker I shouted at a schoolboy on a cycle that was going along East Dulwich Road with no lights front or rear. And all I got back was a Fcuk Off.

Charming. I was only trying to save his life. Won't bother next time.

[Voyageur]

Insanity - and dangerous for pedestrians and other cyclists too, you can bet your bottom dollar that the latter would be hurt rather than them if someone collided with them as they didn't show up.

Bit of a thing going at night in my area with hoodied up muggers on light-less bikes - quick get away up back alleys :(

[Gidget]

Saw a cyclist the other night with a small red light on top of his helmet. That was the only light about his person or his bike. You could not see it unless you were looking upwards. Idiot. Is there any sort of law about cyclists being well lit? I get worried and fearful driving after it gets dark at this time of year precisely because of odd people like these.

[civilservant]

I can't resist re-posting the great Ms Curtain's desires as expressed on another thread

Annette Curtain Wrote:

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> A bike warden, with clout.

>

> You know those ride-along-dressed-in-black-with-no-lights-on type of cyclists. Yeah you do, ?500+ bike, all the

> garb, no lights.

>

> Well, this warden would leap out, ram a broomstick through their spokes, and then motorists would be

> given the chance to crumple the stupid bike under the wheels of their cars.

>

> The warden would then crack the offending cyclist in the nethers, with said stick.

>

> And pedesterians could mock them from the safety of the pavement.

>

> Oh and, I want a cannon on my car, for that idiot who breaks through the light, the rugger shorts

> guy, wearing long sock, no helmet and all sweaty.

> As his wazzocky face looks round, i'd like to fire a soggy loaf filled with English mustard right

> into it. Again, running his silly suspension mountain bike over, until it was flat.

>

> Any chances ?

[the-e-dealer]

The law requires lights. And A bell fitted when bike is bought. But they can take it ok. AFAIK

Riding a Bike at Night with no lights just seems stupid. You need to see and be seen.

[DaveR]

Riding at night without lights is just stupid. No excuse.

[the-e-dealer]

And illegal

[ruffers]

Cyclists - don't just have a light on your head. Think about the level a car driver sits, and the fact that all the other lights are at that height so that's where they expect to see a light.

And when someone gives you advice with the best intentions the correct response isn't a row.

[Salsaboy]

Just to even things up a bit...

I saw a guy on a cycle tonight with 2 flashing lights at the front plus one on his head and 2 either side of his rear wheels and another on the back of his head. Looked like a mobile disco but 10 out of 10 for being seen by other road users.

[john-f]

Next step must be to get the Xmas tree lights out and attach to bike...