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Nothing wrong with those locations, in fact I was at a old-time/flatfoot session last night in Homerton (Hackney), but could have done without the public transport journey back.

Compared to 15 years ago I think it's brilliant we have local music events, and is probably one big reason I didn't leave SE22. I prefer to have a local option for live music, in addition to the usual more central listings.

Well, we went into the EDT today to enquire about the possibility of holding some gigs upstairs.


For Friday and Saturday nights, they now want a guaranteed ?1500 bar take. They insist on having a bar upstairs rather than have people go downstairs to get drinks.


So if we had a hundred punters (and the room wouldn't hold many more than that), they would have to spend an average of ?15 each on drinks - that's after they have bought a ticket for the gig.


And if they didn't, we'd have to make up the difference from our own pockets, having already paid the headliner from the ticket money.


So I guess that's why there isn't much live music upstairs at the EDT.


But the good news is, there is a new manager at the Dog (Crown and Greyhound in Dulwich Village) who is very keen to put on live music in the function room upstairs.

kbabes Wrote:

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> Just found out there is a great electro/acoustic

> band coming to the House of Tippler in Jan...

> Thursday 24th.. playing mainly covers & extremely

> good musicians + great harmonies

> ... One for the diaries ;)



Who are they?


Is it your band by any chance?

Sue, that's bollox, they will lose more money than they will ever make with that policy, total lunacy.


Otta, meant to say previously, couldn't make the Herne Hill gig the other week, but got home very late that night and listened to the links you'd provided - f*cking brilliant. Gutted I missed it, hope it went well.

Cheers KK, it was a good night, except when the power cut out to my effects board during my big solo moment (seriously the timing was so bad you'd think it was planned).


We'll definitely do another night there in a few months. Our next gig is north of the river at Buffalo Bar on Thursday 3rd Jan.

KidKruger Wrote:

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> Sue, that's bollox, they will lose more money than

> they will ever make with that policy, total

> lunacy.

>


xxxxxxxx


Told the manager it was ridiculous. His response was just "Well I've got a business to run."

Private parties (with disco) produce higher bar revenue than gigs and shows. So I can kind of understand the EDT's thinking. Why risk having to turn down higher spend bookings because of pre-booked lower spend ones, especially if the EDT is not short of business. I don't know what the EDT's profit margins are but when you factor in staffing and cleaning and other things required to enable use of that room, it makes sense to require a certain level of revenue to make it worth their while.


There are similarly other venues that will be only too happy with the extra revenue (whether high or low) that any booked event can bring.

Otta Wrote:

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> kbabes Wrote:

> --------------------------------------------------

> -----

> > Just found out there is a great

> electro/acoustic

> > band coming to the House of Tippler in Jan...

> > Thursday 24th.. playing mainly covers &

> extremely

> > good musicians + great harmonies

> > ... One for the diaries ;)

>

>

> Who are they?

>

> Is it your band by any chance?


Not sure what could possibly have led you to that conclusion Otta?? Anyway, even if it was my band would you still come??


One of the guitarists actually uses Banjo sound to great affect.. :)

Sue Wrote:

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> So I guess that's why there isn't much live music

> upstairs at the EDT.

>


Great news about the Crown & Greyhound Sue, keep us posted.. as far as the EDT management goes - Ravi Shankar's in my view..

Can't be done - too many chin strokers and observers - ticking off their i-spy books of music and groups wot I have seen -nobody will let their guard down and get involved - they're all just pi55ing in the wind - As Will Hey said (or Moore Mariott) Your wasting your time.. why the frick would you try exposing your inner music to these vacuous tw*ts in the 1st place, tried it and failed, waste of frickin space, let them all get back to watching Masterchef on TV

Kingy Wrote:

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> Can't be done - too many chin strokers and

> observers - ticking off their i-spy books of music

> and groups wot I have seen -nobody will let their

> guard down and get involved - they're all just

> pi55ing in the wind - As Will Hey said (or Moore

> Mariott) Your wasting your time.. why the frick

> would you try exposing your inner music to these

> vacuous tw*ts in the 1st place, tried it and

> failed, waste of frickin space, let them all get

> back to watching Masterchef on TV


xxxxxx


What can't be done, Kingy?


If you promote it, they will come :)

Kingy Wrote:

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> sorry sue but i never ever really felt comfortable

> in folk clubs, can't define why but i don't really

> want to be part of that thing, nothing to do with

> the actual music, just the general scene, just not

> me, brings out the bolshevik in me


xxxxx


Sorry Kingy but I didn't think your first post was anything to do with folk clubs?


And what do you think a "folk club" is, anyway?


?????????

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