Sunlit uplands. Are we there yet?

[Spartacus]

JohnL Wrote:

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> and talking of trade ambassadors - what's Tony

> Abbott done for us recently.

As I read this , Janet Jackson's words came to mind

[Sephiroth]

?Equivalence? gets raised all the time by brexiteers

This is very good on why that wont happen

Tldr: it suits uk and no one else. So they are reduced to whining impotently for it. Quelle surprise.

https://europeantomorrow.blogspot.com/2021/08/why-doesnt-eu-just-agree-equivalence.html?spref=tw

[TheCat]

One doesn't have to look very far for regular impotent whining.....

[Sephiroth]

I know - it's hilarious Cat - "we lost, get over it!"

thanks for pointing that out again!

But at least my impotent whining is based on actually giving a flying f*** about reality, and not wanting this horror show to get worse

Wheras listening to Leaver impotent whining is doubly egregious because you got what you wanted, we are suffering as expected and still you lot bitch and moan

[j.a.]

TheCat Wrote:

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> One doesn't have to look very far for regular

> impotent whining.....

Or for arrogant, smarmy punditry from massive hypocrites.

[TheCat]

j.a. Wrote:

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> TheCat Wrote:

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> > One doesn't have to look very far for regular

> > impotent whining.....

>

>

> Or for arrogant, smarmy punditry from massive

> hypocrites.

Dont be so harsh on yourself j.a.

But seriously...funny how all I did was copy verbatim the same term that sephiroth used to describe leavers. But it's only arrogant and smarmy when I say it....??? Sure..im the hypocrite.....

[Sephiroth]

Cat self satisfaction rating - 9/10

Cat addressing any points made - 0/10

[Sephiroth]

Yea it is arrogant and smarmy when people who won, threw away control but claimed victory and laugh in losers face claim they can use the same phrase

Because you can?t.

You won. So please - keep displaying the spoils of victory and don?t steal the language of those who lost

[TheCat]

I'll be honest. Im not really that interested in engaging every little point on this thread anymore. I think I've attempted to do that in the past ad infinitum, so a bit over it.

I don't mean this in the harsh way its going to sound..but 90 percent of this thread now is just you occasionally posting links to articles or making points which provide you with your own self-satidfaction. Then followed by supportive comments from other remain acolytes bemoaning how disastrous everything is, and how you were all saying it would be exactly like this for years.

You're of course welcome to do that, but I've made my arguments many times before, and can't be bothered being too involved in this seemingly constant tit for tat point-scoring which this thread has become.

So I'll just dip in with a smarmy arrogant comment from time to time.... just so know I care:)

[Sephiroth]

Yes you have made your arguments many times - but have they ever related to anything in the real world

?I?ll be honest. I?m not that interested??

Wasn?t it in the houses Of parliament debating ?boris?s Brexit? and the implications for NI that Ian Duncan smith said ?look this has all been discussed to death. Move on? despite British democracy trying to preempt problems?

And wasn?t it YOU weeks later saying ?this agreement is unacceptable and we must fight for British rights!? Because The eu were implementing the agreed deal

So I?m sorry you are bored. If I was you I would absent myself as well, from shame if nothing else

Bad things are happening to this country and will happen further. Because of you and your arrogance

Sorry you are bored. Unlike you professing you care about the country, I actually do. And that means dealing with the fallout from your (and others) arrogance

(And as I?ve said before. You KNOW all this. In the dark of night you feel it and worry. But instead of being a grown up and talking about reality you can per-formatively laugh at and dismiss others. Because the alternative is too grim for you to contemplate)

[Sephiroth]

But you?ll keep reading these posts

Because you know

Your soul knows.

But never forget. It?s ok to admit you got something wrong. You don?t have to keep ignoring evidence and doubling down

[TheCat]

What a vivid imagination you have. So creative.

I will indeed keep reading...I'm keen to know how my SOUL ends up

Keep up the good work.

[Alan Medic]

For every tat there's a tit.

[Earl Aelfheah]

Sephiroth Wrote:

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> and don't we have more barriers on inward goods

> still to come later this year and start of next?

Yep, it's barely started. We're going to see some serious inflation, followed by increases in interest rates. That's when the mortgaged of Surrey will finally sit up and take notice. The problem is, how much of it will be put down to COVID, or 'EU intransigence'? My guess is, quite a lot. This government and it's client journalists are pretty good at deflection and brexit voters will go to almost any length to void admitting to themselves that they may have made a mistake.

[Sephiroth]

"brexit voters will go to almost any length to void admitting to themselves that they may have made a mistake."

it can only eat away at their souls

[Earl Aelfheah]

See reports on Twitter (so probably not actually true, but still...), that Wetherspoons is running out of staff and beer due to Brexit.

[Earl Aelfheah]

I feel sorry for Wetherspoons staff, but as far as Tim Martin personally - there is an undeniable poetic justice if true.

[Sephiroth]

not a problem rah

Tom Fenn has it covered: "All unsurprising. There were always going to be some teething problems while the UK left the EU. We who voted to leave anticipated this. What we didn't expect was a worldwide pandemic. EU and remoaners are using that as an excuse to take us back in. But who wants to drink lager??"

anticipated? check

global pandemic whilst not mentioning other EU countries not suffering same problems? check

Snobby remark about lager drinkers (which one would have though was opposite of metropolitan elite?) check

thing is NI trade is suffering far less - but Johnson and co have to explain to them that, ACTUALLY, NIP is bad for them because it will disrupt trade. That's the level of delusion we have to deal with

[Sephiroth]

like - "EU and remoaners are using that as an excuse to take us back in"

how, and why is EU trying to take us back in? If we ever do decide we want to go back in we would have to convince them - and that won't be an easy job now. They aren't going to " try and get us back in"

[JohnL]

I don't think we'll be back into the decision making side for a long time.

The single market and a better relationship with them maybe sooner.

[JohnL]

I'm sure we can all drink some knock off Carling in Spoons and nobody will really notice much difference.

[Sephiroth]

? I don't think we'll be back into the decision making side for a long time. ?

Yep. We are now, voluntarily, rule takers, not involved in any discussions that might benefit us

Realignment with SM and CU more likely. But again, rule takers. Not makers

But the eu dragging us back in? As if. we should be so lucky

And wether is racist knuckleheads like uncle fester on here or more enlightened individuals like Cat, all we have are shrugs and taunts.

[keano77]

Well well, who?d have thought. All?s not well in the Garden of Eden

Surge in eurozone inflation tests nerve of central bankers

? Prices are rising rapidly as the bloc emerges from lockdown. Higher energy prices and supply bottlenecks are fuelling inflationary pressure and the index is being flattered by weak comparable figures last year. Prices are likely to climb even more rapidly over the coming months, with economists pencilling in a peak of 3.5 per cent?

https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/surge-in-eurozone-inflation-tests-nerve-of-central-bankers-g88sjl0ph

Must be Brexit?s fault

[Sephiroth]

Any country counting back from COVID will face inflationary pressures no?

To not have them would be a sign of no bounce back in any case you?ve ignored any of the points raised and introduced something completely unrelated. Well done you

[keano77]

Whoosh.

Didn?t rahrahrah raise inflation above and hasn?t supply chain problems featured prominently recently?

The whole world is experiencing such problems to greater or lesser degrees.