The interview

[TheCat]

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> We are becoming a society where we judge via

> social media based on what Karen put on facebook

> without examining the truth to draw our own

> conclusions.

The Truth, Your Truth, My Truth, Meaghans Truth, Seabag's Mate's Crazy Nanobot Truth....

Of course how much weight is placed on different truths depends on how oppressed/virtuous/prejudiced the person who said it is percieved to be by the person making the judgment on level of truth. Using this method, we as social media users (and as the broader public) can apportion 'truth quotients' in the appropriate amount to suit our own views.

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Unfort as you say Spartacus, no one gives a sh!t about 'the' truth anymore. The truth is so slow and boring to get to....instant indignation and kneejerk judgement provide much more instant gratification....

[Jules-and-Boo]

Oprah?s a bit like Jeremy Kyle for grown ups.

[JohnL]

Oprahs certainly got a following in the US.

I understand her saying "your truth" in the sense in school you'll ask both sides in the playground fight for "their side of the story" - it's a bit of an Americanism possibly.

Possibly the real truth can't be found only many conflicting accounts.

[diable rouge]

TheCat Wrote:

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> The truth is so slow and boring to get to...

Politicians have caught on that you can tell a lie and it firmly becomes embedded in their base, as well as going half way round the world, by the time it gets fact-checked, and as with Trump, the viewings of the lie far outnumber the fact checking...

[TheCat]

diable rouge Wrote:

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> TheCat Wrote:

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> > The truth is so slow and boring to get to...

>

> Politicians have caught on that you can tell a lie

> and it firmly becomes embedded in their base, as

> well as going half way round the world, by the

> time it gets fact-checked, and as with Trump, the

> viewings of the lie far outnumber the fact

> checking...

very true....

...or it is?:)

[nxjen]

There are political lies and there are political lies. Clearly Trumps? lies have produced an evangelical following but the most even the most ardent of Johnson?s followers do is to give him a half hearted benefit of the doubt.

[RoundTable]

Regardless of where you stand on the interview, the reality is that we have been given a gift with the new term 'my truth' which I hadn't come across before, and I, for one, can't wait to start using it:

'You say I'm late, but my truth is that your watch must be broken'

'You say I've cocked it up; my truth is that it is the best thing since sliced bread'

'The deal feel through, but my truth is that it is a roaring success'

'You say it is raining and that I should take an umbrella, but my truth is that I'm in the Caribbean and I'm going to go out in a bikini'

The possibilities are endless.

[nxjen]

It?s closely related to ?alternative facts?

[JohnL]

Boris just did one in PMQs .. and he knew he did as he disappeared fast before Labour brought the point of order to get a retraction.

This is good advice for all purveyors of alternative facts - get out of dodge quickly before anyone can call you out.

[JohnL]

Of course with Beth Rigby back he won't get away with it so much - I have missed her.

@bethrigby "Labour source telling me they think Johnson misled the house because they say party didn?t vote against the NHS funding bill & it was nodded through....so expect Labour to raise a point of order at the end of #PMQs"

[binkylilyput]

Misogyny

Racism

Insidious, pernicious, thinly veiled, institutional and systemic.

The message being when will women and people of colour learn to be pipe down and be quiet? They bring it on themselves.

So it continues...?..and it saddens me that much of this thread stinks of it.

[Dulwich Born And Bred]

Exactly. It?s tiresome and seems like a losing battle. For my own sanity I have to avoid getting involved in things like this as I?m constantly dismissed.

binkylilyput Wrote:

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> Misogyny

>

> Racism

>

> Insidious, pernicious, thinly veiled,

> institutional and systemic.

>

> The message being when will women and people of

> colour learn to be pipe down and be quiet? They

> bring it on themselves.

>

> So it continues...?..and it saddens me that much

> of this thread stinks of it.

[Spartacus]

There is a story on the news that Meghan had now complained about Piers' comments to ITV ...

Does this potentially mean that anyone who disagrees with her comments on here will be contacted by her lawyer ?

[JohnL]

LOL - Meghan is on the warpath now.

Piers no longer cock of the walk. I haven't heard from Uncle for a while either.

[Spartacus]

JohnL Wrote:

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> LOL - Meghan is on the warpath now.

>

> Piers no longer cock of the walk. I haven't

> heard from Uncle for a while either.

Are you implying that uncle is Piers

Wow wouldn't that be a revelation

[Jules-and-Boo]

This is about much more than someone's comments to Megan in the Palace.

I feel sorry for Harry. Having both his mother and wife sensationalised in the media (either by standing or by choice)

[binkylilyput]

Naughty girl Meghan. Sit down. Don't make a fuss. Know your place.

(along with 41,000 complaints to Ofcom)

Spartacus Wrote:

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> There is a story on the news that Meghan had now

> complained about Piers' comments to ITV ...

>

> Does this potentially mean that anyone who

> disagrees with her comments on here will be

> contacted by her lawyer ?

[diable rouge]

I haven't been keeping up with this thread but upon reading binky's comment I've just read through it in it's entirety, it does indeed stink in parts...

[Jules-and-Boo]

It's more about the way of her complaint. If she chooses to go on mainstream TV and talk to Oprah, it's pretty obvious she has goals in mind

[diable rouge]

Any different to the 'goals' that Prince Andrew had in mind?...

[Sue]

https://www.theguardian.com/media/2021/mar/10/society-of-editors-steps-back-claim-racism-no-part-meghan-coverage?CMP=Share_AndroidApp_Other

ETA: This now links to an article which has been updated since I posted the link.

[Dulwich Born And Bred]

Diana went on TV. Edward and Simpson went on TV. Sometimes enough is enough and in order to get closure and to get your truth out, you go public. I know I certainly would.

Jules-and-Boo Wrote:

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> It's more about the way of her complaint. If she

> chooses to go on mainstream TV and talk to Oprah,

> it's pretty obvious she has goals in mind

[JohnL]

Sue Wrote:

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> https://www.theguardian.com/media/2021/mar/10/soci

> ety-of-editors-steps-back-claim-racism-no-part-meg

> han-coverage?CMP=Share_AndroidApp_Other

At least they have stepped back from what was claim we can see with our own eyes is not true.

Obviously that does not mean there isn't ?a proud history of campaigning for freedom of speech and the vital work that journalists do in a democracy to hold power to account? also.

[TheCat]

binkylilyput Wrote:

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> Misogyny

>

> Racism

>

> Insidious, pernicious, thinly veiled,

> institutional and systemic.

>

> The message being when will women and people of

> colour learn to be pipe down and be quiet? They

> bring it on themselves.

>

> So it continues...?..and it saddens me that much

> of this thread stinks of it.

Honestly. What a complete load of sh!t. Sounds like we're all 'saddended' then, as it saddens me that you feel comfortable just 'assuming' you know what drives other people's comments, becuase its suits your pre-existing beleifs to do so.

Tell me....can any criticism of someone's behaviour always be boiled down to their race and gender?

[Jules-and-Boo]

Clearly