Hartlepool & (latterly) North Shropshire

[Sephiroth]

Tories are saying "he's on a final warning"

But in reality... there can't be long if they want to win next election.

If election is in 2024 there are 2 more years of Johnson with all that that entails - they surely don't want that

But if they do want someone else leading them by next election they have to make the change soon and embed WhoEver in good time

But even in doing that, that's the 4th leader of the ELECTED party we will have had in nearly as many years - can they honestly claim to rule the country until 2024?

(and that's before you get into the further realities of Brexit hitting, Scottish indie calls yada yada)

Whole thing looks shaky as to me

[diable rouge]

Tories are saying "he's on a final warning"

But in reality... there can't be long if they want to win next election.

Indeed, but it might even be too late for that, as a rather big, dark slow-moving Covid/Brexit cloud has appeared called rising living costs.

I think electorally they might already be screwed...

[diable rouge]

Dan Hodges (Mail on Sunday opinion writer) hasn't heard of tactical voting...

On the by-election. Disastrous result for Boris. But a pretty terrible result for Starmer as well.

[Sephiroth]

nor has he heard that a resurgent LibDem vote is historically aligned with Labour doing well

but then again - it's Dan Hodges. He is astonishingly dim

[Seabag]

?Get your act together or it?s over, MPs warn Boris Johnson?

-Surely they realise that this is Johnson with his ?act together?

-And then you?ve got enabler?s like IDS projecting the blame on anyone other than the man of chaos himself. Hardly surprising it?s a sh*t show around number 10.

Sir Iain Duncan-Smith, the former party leader, said Johnson was having to defend other people?s mistakes. ?No prime minister or president can govern if they spend their whole time having to defend what others have got wrong and failed on,? he told the BBC. ?It is a mistake to have him bogged down in having to justify and defend things that are often unjustifiable.?

https://apple.news/AVIwQDV2jSlKlih9UBJFdOg

[j.a.]

diable rouge Wrote:

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> Dan Hodges (Mail on Sunday opinion writer) hasn't

> heard of tactical voting...

>

> On the by-election. Disastrous result for Boris.

> But a pretty terrible result for Starmer as well.

Dan Hodges is weirdly obsessed with how badly Labour are doing. Presumably it?s down to him being the kid of a Labour MP, but even so he really needs to let it go.

[Sephiroth]

I?d say it?s more ?being paid by the mail for oppiniunz? than it is Glenda being an MP/movie star

[ianr]

> North Shropshire....the beginning of the end?

> The middle of the end? Or the end of the end?

By happy coincidence, it's the place where in 1987 dear leader married his first wife, Allegra Mostyn-Owen. Her family seat was at West Belton and they married in the local church.

[diable rouge]

And the spokesperson in that video which got the whole Partygate ball well and truly running was another Allegra...

[diable rouge]

A couple of points picked up in the by-election aftermath...

Postal votes which were cast before the Partygate revelations broke, were heavily in Lib Dems favour, suggesting they didn't play a significant role in people's thinking/voting.

Rather, NS is a strong rural/farming area, lots of unhappiness about Brexit being bad for UK farmers as witnessed in the detail of the recent Australia/NZ trade deals.