A few drunk loutish England fans let the side down on Lordship Lane

[JohnL]

Is there a Dominic Cummings translator in the house, what's the trolleys for ?

[Alan Medic]

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> > > > Jog on mate- your probably a rugby fan,

> where

> > > they

> > > > all sit together and discuss each others

> > skiing

> > > > trips. Please stick to it and do not try

> and

> > > come

> > > > to football matches.

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> > > Actually one of my favourite English rugby

> > > players/political commentators seems to have

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> > > missing on twitter - hope he's back soon as I

> > like

> > > his posts :)

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> > Brian Moore?

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> Yes - suspect a short ban on posting for

> something he said about a tory activist (I maybe

> wrong) :)

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> Hope to hear more commentating from him too.

Yeah, he doesn't take any sh*t. Though his last post to date was in response to someone saying they were going to report him to the police for threatening said tory activist.

[ianr]

> Is there a Dominic Cummings translator

> in the house, what's the trolleys for ?

"Dominic Cummings has hit out at Boris Johnson?s indecisiveness and described him as ?a shopping trolley smashing from one side of the aisle to the other? as a part of a blistering attack on his apparent inability to lead the country as Prime Minister." https://www.cityam.com/indecisive-boris-johnson-a-shopping-trolley-smashing-between-aisles-says-cummings/ (26 May)

Without having found this I'd have surmised DC meant something like "empty vehicle", "available to all", "gets filled up with whatever seems attractive or satisfying". Maybe those are to be found elsewhere in the corpus.

[diable rouge]

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> Is there a Dominic Cummings translator in the

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Haphazard, no control, directionless, suddenly veering off course...

[Sephiroth]

tr: loutish behaviour

good article here:

https://theathletic.com/2704711/2021/07/15/this-is-what-you-endure-watching-england-as-a-woman-misogyny-sexism-and-the-constant-fear-of-being-touched-without-consent/

I see Paul Hayward (sports columnist at Telegraph) also posted something about noticing a change in the demographic of football louts to a younger more chippy age group

[Sephiroth]

did someone just post something?

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[KidKruger]

.... and always an awkward, stuck, wheel in one corner squeaking and jamming as it spins the trolley persistently out of control !

diable rouge Wrote:

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[alice]

off his trolley

[missse22]

Bloody animals , I know this family well they are former clients of mine and a really sweet family.

This reminds me when a load of England fans smashed up IKEA when England beat Sweden in the 2018 World Cup , so so ashamed to be half English sometimes :-(

[JohnL]

Thats Trolling

[DuncanW]

NotImpressed is an inveterate Troll - that's for sure.

It's a shame he or she doesn't seem to feel any sympathy for this family who clearly had an upsetting experience.

There is nothing factually inaccurate in the post above though. There is often trouble at England matches, in and around the stadium and en route to and from. This trouble is by no means limited to England fans, but followers of our national team do seem to be amongst the more regular offenders. Add to the mix, the biggest fixture in recent times played at night, and the drinking that comes with that.

When the Danish FA sought out ex-pats and their families to replace the normal Danish football fans who couldn't travel, perhaps they should have provided better advice. It's certainly freely available elsewhere:

"You should avoid wearing football shirts or showing any kind of support for any football team because such shows of support might end violently since some rivalries are taken very seriously in the UK." from https://www.travelsafe-abroad.com/united-kingdom/

The incident was a minor one. If the man felt he was assaulted,then that's a matter for the police (and there would be CCTV as it was on a bus) not really for a matter the national media. It seems the man himself and his boy recognise that saying "it was more annoying drunk fans than terror"

[JohnL]

Well if they had held the matches in Cardiff away shirts would have been welcomed.

It's brilliant having many different coloured shirts around of many nations enjoying themselves.

I wouldn't wear a Swansea shirt in Cardiff obviously - that's the rivalry - but some do :)

Anyway you can't blame a victim - it's preposterous that at the Euro2020 final a family can't support their team. It makes me furious as many smaller nations would love to showcase their cities in these finals.

[JohnL]

And if Wales were in the semi final versus England at Wembley I'd wear my Wales shirt with pride

actually in 2016 when we played England - I did - with no issues.

Anyway - I bit - because I like wearing football and rugby shirts :)

[DuncanW]

Cardiff City have a notorious football firm (hooligan element) - they have intense and violent rivalries with Swansea and others. None of these would come out to welcome fans if England played in Cardiff??

I've been away to Swansea and the fans (we met) couldn't have been nicer. I've also been out in Wine St, Swansea on a Saturday night when Swansea City had been promoted the same day. I was with family (no kids) and some friends from overseas. The atmosphere went from boisterous to edgy, quite quickly. I made the call that we shouldn't be there and we left promptly in a taxi. Most likely nothing would have happened...

[JohnL]

Wind Street is always edgy LOL

[Sephiroth]

"Wind Street is always edgy LOL"

but isn't this the same logic as notimpressed?

[JohnL]

Not sure - It isn't (wasn't - not been there for a long while) a football crowd - it's got lots of drinking too much and groups of people clash sometimes.

If a Euro2020 match was held nearby (Cardiff) I'm absolutely sure the rival teams would be welcomed.

[JohnL]

After all Wales jointly won best fans award in Russia 2016

https://www.espn.co.uk/football/european-championship/story/2951076/uefa-honours-wales-and-iceland-fans-among-best-euro-2016-supporters

[DuncanW]

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> Wind Street is always edgy LOL

True story - but this was std Wind St edgy cranked up a good couple of notches :)

[diable rouge]

100...

[JohnL]

Maybe UEFA should award finals to the nations that win the fans award at the previous cup.

and I heard about Cardiff in Bath and wasn't impressed - it seems to be a club thing though.

[Alan Medic]

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> 100...

Just a hundred Red. Raise you 16,300!

[malumbu]

Not sure whether it has been mentioned how much cocaine contributed to the antics of many. Including bum flare man. https://www.thesun.co.uk/sport/15595227/england-fan-flare-bum-strolled-into-wembley/ Although to be fair Chris Lynam was doing this 40 years ago.

https://thejohnfleming.wordpress.com/2014/05/24/the-early-days-of-the-comedy-store-and-the-alleged-toilet-habits-of-irishmen/

Always amuses me the Sun being indignant about some of their core readers

[IlonaM]

https://news.met.police.uk/news/images-of-ten-men-released-by-officers-investigating-euro-2020-final-disorder-431297

Detectives have released ten images of people sought in connection with violence and disorder at the Euro 2020 final.

[malumbu]

This is all getting rather sexist and racist, where are the pictures of the women involved? And ageist, hairist, beardist and tattooist. Why the assumption that it is all good honest hard working bearded balding white blokes, aged 25 - 45?