ianr Posted March 2, 2013 Share Posted March 2, 2013 http://www.southwark.gov.uk/news/article/1150/dulwich_library_refurbishment_march_2013Published 28 March 2013Dulwich library detailSouthwark Council has announced that Dulwich Library on Lordship Lane will now re-open on Monday 15 April 2013 and not on Monday 8 April as previously advised.http://www.southwark.gov.uk/news/article/1195/revised_opening_date_for_dulwich_library Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/29700-dulwich-library-closed-4-mar-7-april-now-14-april-for-refurbishment/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
uncleglen Posted March 3, 2013 Share Posted March 3, 2013 Very strange timing- just before exam season and half of the Easter holidays Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/29700-dulwich-library-closed-4-mar-7-april-now-14-april-for-refurbishment/#findComment-621507 Share on other sites More sharing options...
James Barber Posted March 4, 2013 Share Posted March 4, 2013 Perverse considering the library hall was closed for a month late last year. Would you ever see a shop closed for a month for a refurb. The Coop was closed for 10 days and had much more done to it than the Library plans.Real issue of librarires using library builders and no shop fitters. Also shop fitters are quiet and desperate for business during lead up to Christmas for example - fantastic value can be found then for a library to be refurbished.The rfub will include self service terminals and free up a lot of space for people and books. Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/29700-dulwich-library-closed-4-mar-7-april-now-14-april-for-refurbishment/#findComment-621640 Share on other sites More sharing options...
the-e-dealer Posted March 4, 2013 Share Posted March 4, 2013 Yes Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/29700-dulwich-library-closed-4-mar-7-april-now-14-april-for-refurbishment/#findComment-621645 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marra S Posted March 4, 2013 Share Posted March 4, 2013 i work part time in my local library and i do understand why it may take a mouth for a refurbishment to take place, unlike a shop before work begins all books, tapes CD ete have to be catalogued, boxed and then stored. being a local authority building we can only use agreed council contractors and staff have to be redeployed to other library. i know it can be an problematic to some users but we do always try our best not to cause to much disruption. Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/29700-dulwich-library-closed-4-mar-7-april-now-14-april-for-refurbishment/#findComment-621651 Share on other sites More sharing options...
the-e-dealer Posted March 4, 2013 Share Posted March 4, 2013 Its a very foolish time to do it just before exams. Maybe its urgent? Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/29700-dulwich-library-closed-4-mar-7-april-now-14-april-for-refurbishment/#findComment-621668 Share on other sites More sharing options...
the-e-dealer Posted March 4, 2013 Share Posted March 4, 2013 I once worked in a Library- Surely all Items are already catalogued! Marra S Wrote:-------------------------------------------------------> i work part time in my local library and i do> understand why it may take a mouth for a> refurbishment to take place, unlike a shop before> work begins all books, tapes CD ete have to be> catalogued, boxed and then stored. being a local> authority building we can only use agreed council> contractors and staff have to be redeployed to> other library. i know it can be an problematic to> some users but we do always try our best not to> cause to much disruption. Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/29700-dulwich-library-closed-4-mar-7-april-now-14-april-for-refurbishment/#findComment-621690 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeremy Posted March 4, 2013 Share Posted March 4, 2013 Are you talking about A Levels? Surely kids can revise in their homes, or their school libraries. Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/29700-dulwich-library-closed-4-mar-7-april-now-14-april-for-refurbishment/#findComment-621699 Share on other sites More sharing options...
James Barber Posted March 4, 2013 Share Posted March 4, 2013 Sadly Jeremy many can't. I've visited around exam times and upstairs pupils/students would be sitting on the stairs, at every desk. That's when I asked they open the hall up when it wasnt booked for people to study at desks. Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/29700-dulwich-library-closed-4-mar-7-april-now-14-april-for-refurbishment/#findComment-621700 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lynne Posted March 4, 2013 Share Posted March 4, 2013 Does anyone really think that self service terminals are there for the benefit of the public? They're just there so staff levels can be reducedLynne Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/29700-dulwich-library-closed-4-mar-7-april-now-14-april-for-refurbishment/#findComment-621703 Share on other sites More sharing options...
womanofdulwich Posted March 4, 2013 Share Posted March 4, 2013 I would be interested to know the percentage of books which are lost/ not fined when you move to a self service system. THis has been done in other boroughs. Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/29700-dulwich-library-closed-4-mar-7-april-now-14-april-for-refurbishment/#findComment-621718 Share on other sites More sharing options...
maxxi Posted March 4, 2013 Share Posted March 4, 2013 Lynne Wrote:-------------------------------------------------------> Does anyone really think that self service> terminals are there for the benefit of the public?> They're just there so staff levels can be reduced> LynneJudging by the many, varied and constantly changing staff at this place that might not be a bad idea - it may just eliminate the popping-in-quickly-for-a-book-defeating process currenty operating where members of staff wander around, and through, the empty desk area looking too preoccupied to serve you and only stopping to answer long and detailed phone queries while you stand and wait, and wait, and wait..... Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/29700-dulwich-library-closed-4-mar-7-april-now-14-april-for-refurbishment/#findComment-621726 Share on other sites More sharing options...
James Barber Posted March 4, 2013 Share Posted March 4, 2013 Hi Lynne,Self service can be used to reduce staff, extend hours or improve customer service. Apparently the large ground floor staff area will be much reduced releasing space for other library uses - hope fully more books. Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/29700-dulwich-library-closed-4-mar-7-april-now-14-april-for-refurbishment/#findComment-621728 Share on other sites More sharing options...
the-e-dealer Posted March 4, 2013 Share Posted March 4, 2013 Jeremy Wrote:-------------------------------------------------------> Are you talking about A Levels? Surely kids can> revise in their homes, or their school libraries.Well no, not during School Holidays as the School will er be closed. And at home if they live in a reasonably large house and dont have siblings disturbing them. Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/29700-dulwich-library-closed-4-mar-7-april-now-14-april-for-refurbishment/#findComment-621731 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lynne Posted March 4, 2013 Share Posted March 4, 2013 I agree, maxxi, that you often feel that you're invisible. Perhaps self service will be quicker if that's all the service you need, but people will still be losing their jobs, I imagineLynne Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/29700-dulwich-library-closed-4-mar-7-april-now-14-april-for-refurbishment/#findComment-621856 Share on other sites More sharing options...
sunbob Posted March 4, 2013 Share Posted March 4, 2013 Lynne Wrote:-------------------------------------------------------> I agree, maxxi, that you often feel that you're> invisible. Perhaps self service will be quicker> if that's all the service you need, but people> will still be losing their jobs, I imagine> LynneThe member of staff I asked about this the week before they closed said the self service machines will be there to free up staff time and that the staff will stay. Hopefully she was correct. Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/29700-dulwich-library-closed-4-mar-7-april-now-14-april-for-refurbishment/#findComment-621861 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lynne Posted March 5, 2013 Share Posted March 5, 2013 Perhaps they will be able to spend some time actually shelving the returned books. My record is 7 trollies full, almost as many as actually on the shelvesLynne Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/29700-dulwich-library-closed-4-mar-7-april-now-14-april-for-refurbishment/#findComment-622040 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bic Basher Posted March 5, 2013 Share Posted March 5, 2013 I'll miss the huge reception area in the library with the old school style service you get from the staff who have always been fantastic assisting me over the years.However, I can also see the benefits of self-service for the customers at least, yet when self-service was promoted in Westminster, staff were told at the time that it wouldn't affect their jobs and they did lose posts. Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/29700-dulwich-library-closed-4-mar-7-april-now-14-april-for-refurbishment/#findComment-622308 Share on other sites More sharing options...
edhistory Posted March 5, 2013 Share Posted March 5, 2013 Has anyone seen the Southwark Libraries budget for 2013/14?John K Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/29700-dulwich-library-closed-4-mar-7-april-now-14-april-for-refurbishment/#findComment-622336 Share on other sites More sharing options...
ianr Posted April 7, 2013 Author Share Posted April 7, 2013 Published 28 March 2013Dulwich library detailSouthwark Council has announced that Dulwich Library on Lordship Lane will now re-open on Monday 15 April 2013 and not on Monday 8 April as previously advised.http://www.southwark.gov.uk/news/article/1195/revised_opening_date_for_dulwich_library Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/29700-dulwich-library-closed-4-mar-7-april-now-14-april-for-refurbishment/#findComment-632882 Share on other sites More sharing options...
womanofdulwich Posted April 7, 2013 Share Posted April 7, 2013 Thank you SO much ianr,I have a load of books all ready to take back tomorrow, you have saved me a wasted journey. Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/29700-dulwich-library-closed-4-mar-7-april-now-14-april-for-refurbishment/#findComment-632906 Share on other sites More sharing options...
lizbells6 Posted April 7, 2013 Share Posted April 7, 2013 Same here. Many thanks. Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/29700-dulwich-library-closed-4-mar-7-april-now-14-april-for-refurbishment/#findComment-632908 Share on other sites More sharing options...
the-e-dealer Posted April 7, 2013 Share Posted April 7, 2013 Shelving was always the best job for a public grunt. Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/29700-dulwich-library-closed-4-mar-7-april-now-14-april-for-refurbishment/#findComment-632909 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Burbage Posted April 7, 2013 Share Posted April 7, 2013 maxxi Wrote:-------------------------------------------------------> .... that might not be a> bad idea - it may just eliminate the> popping-in-quickly-for-a-book-defeating process> currenty operating where members of staff wander> around, and through, the empty desk area looking> too preoccupied to serve you and only stopping to> answer long and detailed phone queries while you> stand and wait, and wait, and wait.....I'm happy to agree with that. At first I thought it was something to do with shift patterns, or I'd just pitched up on training day each time. But it's not either. It's just spooky. And bloody annoying. I don't necessarily want to go all Daily Mail, but if someone's being paid to do a job, it would be nice for them to at least look as if they're pretending to do it. I'd mind a little less if they were any good at it, but both books and library cards seem to baffle them (I'm either dead, or the book I'm trying to return is already on a shelf in Stoke Newington), and they've never been able to answer a simple question without holding a conference first.It may not be their fault, of course. Maybe the refurbishment is taking longer because they've found a ley-line that needs muffling or there really was something in the water. But, even making that allowance, I can't say I'd miss any of them for very long. A machine might be just as soulless and dismissive, but at least you can guess what it will do, and that it won't take an afternoon to do it. Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/29700-dulwich-library-closed-4-mar-7-april-now-14-april-for-refurbishment/#findComment-632952 Share on other sites More sharing options...
treehugger Posted April 7, 2013 Share Posted April 7, 2013 Harsh Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/29700-dulwich-library-closed-4-mar-7-april-now-14-april-for-refurbishment/#findComment-632953 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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