Today the lady pushing her pram over Chadwick Road...

[rupert james]

Just about sums up the cyclist creed

[Monkey]

And the moaning whinge whinge posts sum up a vocal minority in ED.

[Penguin68]

Just to make things clear - even before the recent changes I had right of way, as a pedestrian, at a zebra crossing. I did not exercise that 'right' until I had ascertained that the oncoming motorists had seen me and had reacted to that (forget about cyclists, for whom too many acted as if that 'rule' did not apply to them). I was not so stupid as to believe that stepping off into a road at a zebra crossing would automatically preserve my life or limb because I was 'in the right'. I already see too many taking no notice of road conditions (i.e. by looking at phones etc.) before stepping into the road.

The new Highway Code revisions do not paint a force field around pedestrians to make them invulnerable to traffic. Forget about the blame game, if they step in front of traffic that is still moving they will likely be hurt. I would rather not be hurt than have the posthumous satisfaction of a driver being convicted of dangerous driving by 'breaking' the new code.

[SpringTime]

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[SpringTime]

DuncanW Wrote:

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> Once in the road, did she not have priority over a

> car under the old version of the Highway Code

> anyway? It seems like the OP certainly afforded

> her that consideration. I'm assuming the OP was

> the driver of a car that had to stop for her. Had

> they seen her in ample time to stop, which I take

> to be the case, but not done so, they would have

> been at fault anyway.

>

This is correct. I was also paying attention to the road and pavements. As was the van driver coming the other way, fortunately. And I was sub-20mph.

[SpringTime]

LMCPR Wrote:

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> Had to check as I thought I might have been that

> lady.... Chadwick Road is in Peckham... go on

> Peckham's forum and tell their community

>

You read it here and you post here too.

If this was you please don't do it again. Thank you 😊

[malumbu]

It all about sharing road space. For some reason many, mainly motorists, some of which could be described as entitled, don't get it.

The Highway Code has, in my lifetime, always given equal priority to road users. Sadly because some with metal boxes think otherwise, it has to be revised from time to time. Governments have also often given lip service to this. Wouldn't it be lovely if more motorists got points for hassling other road users.

Most road users to share happily with others. Too many don't.

PM me if you want a safe driving lesson, a safe cycling lesson, and if you have a motorbike I can also give you a lesson on that. Not yet branched into scooters, but should expand into safe pedestrianising.

[JohnL]

redpost Wrote:

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> JohnL Wrote:

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> > The Sun explains it better for its readers :

> >

> > The new Highway Code hierarchy is as follows:

> > Pedestrians

> > Cyclists

> > Horse Riders

> > Motorcyclists

> > Cars/taxis

> > Vans/minibuses

> > Large passenger vehicles or courier vehicles

> like

> > buses and HGVs

> >

> > Cyclists now have a higher power over vehicles

>

> Perhaps you should read the new highway code and

> see what it's actually about instead of getting it

> from the Sun?

LOL - That was the point :)

[sweetgirl]

Sadly, as someone who drives for a living, it seems pedestrians have become complacent when it comes to road sense!

To me it seems many people value their phones/headphones etc more than their lives or their childrens.

Especially in the afternoons I see parents crossing major roads with their children yards away from proper crossing places, it makes me sad & sometimes I feel like I want to say something. If this is how children are taught to cross the road from a young age how can you expect better from them when they get older!

I also see buggies getting pushed out into the roads even before the person pushing it has had a look!

All these new Highway Code rulings are not helping anybody, first & foremost an individual has to take responsibility for their actions, wether they are a cyclist, pedestrian, driver or whomever!

The deliveroo/Uber eats/ or any other cyclists of that nature are one of the most dangerous out there.

It?s common sense to have a basic knowledge of road sense when using roads especially in a city like London! Even more so having a roadworthy bike is paramount!

Such sad times???

[Seabag]

I?ve taken to riding my unicycle with both my children strapped front and back in baby slings.

We all watch an episode of In The Night Garden as we cycle down the central reservation or the pavement, whichever is busier.

I?m in the right, whatever you say. So get used to it.

So done with your moral & judgmental pollution.

Fuck you

[Siduhe]

I highly recommend watching a few of the Ogmios School of Zen Motoring videos (as recently seen on TFL adverts) - I'm a pedestrian, cyclist and driver, and yes - there are a lot of muppets on and around the roads. But every time I'm tempted to get wound up by someone else on or around the road, this is how I try and react. It's a small thing but it works for me.

Although the 45 year old Dulwich Dad (wearing a Carhart jacket and riding a fixie) who threatened to get off his bike and "teach you a f**king lesson about how to ride a bike, that you won't f**ing like" earlier this week because I stopped at a red light with a green pedestrian phase (and pedestrians crossing) that he wanted to cycle through at high speed can do one.

[malumbu]

'Cyclists now have a higher power over vehicles'

What total bolloxs. Perhaps HMG should actually try to inform the masses what this is all about, rather than expecting the Sun to do it. Funnily enough in another life we used to Sun to get nice succinct messages over to the consumers, as it has a lot of influence.

Like the chilled TfL vid, this sort of thing can make me a little embarrassed about my behaviour. Sometimes I am angry, sometimes I try to politely tell people to cycle, drive or walk better, sometimes I am just chilled.

At my worst I have very gently ridden into people who walk straight across me, perhaps not great behaviour. And even worse after shouting, and doing an emergency and got no response shouted I'll run you over next time. Anyway a handful of times, and something not proud of despite a smile on my face as I type.

I'd prefer to say for every bad experience I have a dozen good experiences.

Well chilled out as after posting a Norma Waterson track on EDF it's gone to some chillaxed Norther Soul on Youtube. Not that this is relevant to the thread. And you can comment on chillax on my thread on new words that have got into our language.