It's going to be tough on families

[diable rouge]

Most people will be affected, some more than others.

I don't see anything wrong with those who are fortunate to absorb the costs, showing concern for the rises.

Estimated that 4 million, up from 2m, will now go into fuel poverty.

Not a good look for one of the richest nations in the world...

[malumbu]

There is a serious issue about size of property, and poor insulation. Many in my area have or are extending their properties, both to increase living space and increase value. With poor return on cash investments property has been seen to be one way of protecting your savings. I'm sure I started a thread on this some time ago - half the country don't have enough living space, half (subjectively) too much.

Few from my observations put the money into better insulation, either due to cost, low return on investment, and the practicalities.

I started a thread on the governments green strategy but sadly didn't capture much interest.

[JohnL]

Sky just said water bills will go up a lot too in April.

is it a bandwagon ?

[malumbu]

Told you so (as I said in the 80s and 90s when were busily privitising our utilities).

Well it is all Thatcher's fault.

And Major

And certainly Blair

And Brown

And Cameron

And now Johnson

May gets off as she didn't really do a lot beyond the disastrous path to a hard Brexit. And bad dad dancing.

[Annie5]

indiepanda Wrote:

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> diable rouge Wrote:

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> -----

> > ''Of course they do but can you imagine the

> title

> > if I included everyone e.g It's going to be

> > tough on families, single people, pensioners,

> war

> > heroes, non binary people and the general

> > unwashed?''

> >

> > I thought you had it there for a moment.

> >

> > How about It's going to be tough on...*cue drum

> > roll*...everyone

>

> Exactly!! I wasn't trying to be all snowflakey,

> but there's no need to go making out one group is

> the only one to suffer when the vast majority of

> people are adversly affected in some way by the

> financial mess the country is in.

>

> The policians all seem to go on about "hard

> working families" as if other groups don't matter,

> I don't understand it. Maybe they think they are

> more likely to change who they vote for at the

> next election??

Totally agree. Am sick of hearing the phrase "hard working families". What about hard working single people (who often end up subsidising families, by the way).

[JohnL]

malumbu Wrote:

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> May gets off as she didn't really do a lot beyond

> the disastrous path to a hard Brexit. And bad dad

> dancing.

May did the best conference speech ever

[Waseley]

Or wean ourselves off hydrocarbons? We are no different than many of our neighbours in the West if anything have better energy security due to the reserves in the North sea including our great connectivity to Norwegian fields. The mistakes, as others have gone on about, have been in the last 35 years

[jazzer]

Countries in Europe have experienced similar hikes in gas and electricity prices so it is not just a UK problem but a global issue created by Putin in Russia. This "sudden" price increase has not just happened because production costs have increased. Somewhere, someone (Russia) is making an absolute killing and we are all paying. The UK needs to exploit the gas fields under the North Sea and we need that gas to help rectify the issues, but that is not a quick win. As Waseley has stated, the mistakes have been made over the last 35+ years.

So what to do;

1. Start fracking. No

2. Develop deep off-shore fields. Yes

3. Create storage capacity. Yes

[Seabag]

Spartacus Wrote:

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> Seabag Wrote:

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> > Be honest as well , there?s lots of people who

> > might not like it, but does it really effect

> them,

> > really really?

> >

> > No, much of ED is fairly insulated in its

> bubble.

> >

> > I live in Sevenoaks now, another bubble.

> >

> > But it does give us all something to gripe

> about.

>

>

>

> Are you the "boy in a bubble" ?

> https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Boy_in_the_Pla

> stic_Bubble

>

> It may be okay for some but not everyone

The story ?The Boy in the Bubble? sounds dandy.

As Tod grows, he wishes to see more of the outside world and meet regular people his age. He is enrolled at the local school after being equipped with suitable protective clothing, similar in style to a space suit. He falls in love with his next door neighbor, Gina Biggs, and he must decide between following his heart and facing near-certain death, or remaining in his protective bubble forever. In the end, after having a discussion with his doctor who tells him he has built up some immunities which may possibly be enough to survive the real world, he steps outside his house, unprotected, and he and Gina ride off on her horse.

Is riding off on Gina?s horse some kind of euphemism?

Gina Biggs is quite the girl, and a marvellous name.