Ukraine situation

[Sephiroth]

No one is with you cat.

No one

[JohnL]

Truss made it obvious she doesn't fully know the brief - but then I guess Blinken is fully briefed so that didn't make any difference one way or the other.

[diable rouge]

Comrade Cat has finally flipped...:)

[TheCat]

Sephiroth Wrote:

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> No one is with you cat.

>

> No one

Luckily, I have more conviction and independent though that most of the mob.

But I'm glad you take solace in the fact that others agree with you (also...there are people outside of DR and KK....just so u know)

I'm happy for you.

If anyone could make a russia v Ukraine thread a brexit thread, it's the edf......

[Sephiroth]

? I have more conviction and independent though that most?

I will be in an old folks home. Lying in my own piss. Miserable. Insufficient staff to help me (because, yknow. Brexit)

And then I will remember this line. And I will smile and be happy

It?s not the first self-aggrandising Cat line

But it might be the finest. Bravo sir. Bravo

[JohnL]

Don't worry

The defence secretary has said we will kick Russia's arse like we did in the Crimean war.

I thought he was one of the sensible ones.

https://www.businessinsider.com/uk-defense-minister-boasts-of-past-british-victory-over-russians-2022-2?r=US&IR=T

[malumbu]

I don't generally agree with the Cat's views but I do like his/her style. Nothing wrong with being provocative

[TheCat]

malumbu Wrote:

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> I don't generally agree with the Cat's views but I

> do like his/her style. Nothing wrong with being

> provocative

Many Thanks mal.

The thing is, it's often only regarded as provocative if the views are at odds with the zeitgeist....

Step back and look at how 'provocative' some of the comments here are that are of the right view.....

[malumbu]

Interesting Tobias Elwood's comments about the west deserting Ukraine. He urged for NATO to put troops into the country six months ago. Not sure if that was feasible or a good idea.

Not sure what Russia's end game is. Worrying.

[jazzer]

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/av/world-europe-60505322

Russian missile hits airport in western Ukraine

For those that don't know, the distance between Rzeszow in Poland and the Ukrainian border is LESS than 150KM, the Russian bear has stirred and is on the move. The West must do everything possible to stop Putin. Boris has said today a last resort is military action, watch closely.

[JohnL]

Putin actually threatened nuclear war if anyone gets in his way (if you watch his news conference this is what I took from it).

Do we do a JFK in the Cuban Crisis and sort of say "bring it on" and hope they back down.

Do we go hard with sanctions and try to support Ukraine with weapons.

[heartblock]

One can only hope that the people of Russia and the actual Russian army turns against this dictator. Who knows what his end-game is?

[DulwichFox]

The Doomsday Clock is curently at 100 seconds to Midnight.

The closest it has ever been to apocalypse.

Foxy

[Waseley]

Serious question would anyone here fight to save Ukraine? No, I didn't think so. Not sure what the West could do. I'd happily deport all Russian citizens. Not sure how many UK citizens live in Russia.

[heartblock]

I think many non-oligarch Russians that live in London do not agree with Putin, I'm not sure deporting them helps? Why would that stop Putin?

[Waseley]

I understand they have a lot of influence. Better still seize their property and use it for social housing. I'd go and far as supporting our PM on this.

[Waseley]

Sorry referring to oligarchs. Not sure how many other Russians live in London and why. If they are here for altruistic reasons the would leave them out of sanctions.

[Thunderblue600]

'The Pope's about as much use as tits on a fish. If he really gives a hoot he should go directly to Putin and give him a thorough whipping. On the telly.'

You made me laugh very loud - I would only add that Putin should be bare chested when whipped, and we all know he loves showing off his six pack

[Thunderblue600]

One can't begin to imagine what it must be like for anyone in Ukraine right now.

But will this fruitcake be satisfied with JUST installing a Putin puppet in Ukraine?

Anyway by way of a black humour diversion, does anyone wonder if Kenny Everett's declaration 'Let's bomb Russia' might become a reality?

[diable rouge]

What a world we live in where the Taliban have more of a moral compass than Nigel Farage and his ilk when it comes to the illegal invasion of Ukraine.

For GB News, read KGB News...

[kristymac1]

Can someone help me understand; Ukraine had the 3rd largest number of nuclear weapons in the world. They signed the NPNWS and disarmed on the promise that UK, US, France would support them militarily.

Are sanctions really sufficient?

Now I'm not advocating nuclear war but I'd be questioning why we gave up our deterent only to be supported by sanctions....

[JohnL]

So Lavrov was in a telephone conference this morning and CNN were trying to cover it.

Lavrov kept on trying to bring in a Chinese media group to ask a question (maybe it was a pre-agreed question) but every time he asked for them it went to a CNN reporter in Kyiv who was telling him they were under fire from Russian forces even though Lavrov said they weren't.

Made him look a little stupid today.

[JohnL]

kristymac1 Wrote:

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> Can someone help me understand; Ukraine had the

> 3rd largest number of nuclear weapons in the

> world. They signed the NPNWS and disarmed on the

> promise that UK, US, France would support them

> militarily.

> Are sanctions really sufficient?

> Now I'm not advocating nuclear war but I'd be

> questioning why we gave up our deterent only to be

> supported by sanctions....

They had the Nukes but the Russians had the triggers.

I'd still have been tempted to squirrel one away and hack it.

[SpringTime]

diable rouge Wrote:

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> What a world we live in where the Taliban have

> more of a moral compass than Nigel Farage and his

> ilk when it comes to the illegal invasion of

> Ukraine.

>

> For GB News, read KGB News...

Salvini, Erdogan, Zeman and Orban have all condemned the present actions of Putin. We all have our differences but when it comes to the crunch (in this case a regime willing to kill to anyone if it suits it) remember that most of us agree on most things most of the time. Not sure about what Donald said though. See you next Tuesday.

[JohnL]

So there's two tales of Ukrainian Heroes - one true one maybe not so true.

The soldiers on Snake Island who on being told to surrender by a Russian Boat responded "Russian Warship, F**k you" before being killed.

and

The F29 above Kyiv that has supposedly shot down 6 Russian planes and become the first Ace Fighter of the 21st century and is now known as "The Ghost of Kyiv".

The fact these stories are going round the world isn't helping Putin.