Did you vote in the Local Elections?

[JohnL]

jazzer Wrote:

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> Nice to see Diane Abbott already attacking Keir

> Starmer stating "he should consider resigning if

> fined". What's the saying keep your friends close

> and your enemies closer. So much for party unity,

> and look at the shower 58& have put back in to run

> the council. Maybe don't just start to throw

> stones in glasshouses!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I think he would resign if fined - that goes without saying

[JohnL]

The question I guess is will he resign because he's under police investigation and then put his name forward to be chosen again.

[diable rouge]

jazzer Wrote:

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Even funnier their is the beginnings of talk on GB News of Starmer being replaced, so much for a united team, you really couldn't make it up even if you wanted to!!!

What's really amusing is seeing newspapers/pundits/posters et al who were once saying there are far more important things to talk about than parties/fines etc, now happily talking about someone eating a curry...

Should add Tory ministers/MPs who once wouldn't comment on the parties/fines until Sue Grey and the Met had carried out their respective report/investigation, are now happy to comment on a case under investigation.

[trinidad]

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[TheCat]

diable rouge Wrote:

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> jazzer Wrote:

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> Even funnier their is the beginnings of talk on GB

> News of Starmer being replaced, so much for a

> united team, you really couldn't make it up even

> if you wanted to!!!

>

> What's really amusing is seeing

> newspapers/pundits/posters et al who were once

> saying there are far more important things to talk

> about than parties/fines etc, now happily talking

> about someone eating a curry...

No different from the Graun with an opinion peice today bemoaning why trivial 'beergate' is being focussed on when its far more important that the Tories took an eletoral kicking....

All sides do exactly the same...all the time...whether its the left/right leaning press or left/right leaning politicians...no side is more ehtical or less hypocritical than the other for the most part (I'll except the PM from this generlisation of sides being equally as hyocritical, as he is a very specific, slippery indiviudal case who is a clear outLIER!)...it just depends on which ones you choose to focus on.

In my view if Starmer really wants to standout from the crowd and make an impact, he should come out today and resign straight-up, proving he is a man of principle and practices what he preaches etc etc. I think it would be a smart move if he's willing the play the long game....it would certianly garner a great deal of resepct from a lot of people who perhaps arent really fans of his....then try for the leadership again in a couple of years when Labour inevtively have their next leadership contest...and this time with an even stronger stranglehold on credibility/priciples....

[JohnL]

So both Starmer and Raynar will resign if fined.

Boris says what fine - he don't see no fine.

[TheCat]

Thankfully (and all credit to the Graun on this occasion) Simon jenkins speaks some sense on this whole affair....

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2022/may/09/partygate-beergate-brexit-northern-ireland-cost-of-living

[JohnL]

Blair is still obsessed with digital ID

"As an example of the kind of radical policy he would like to see, Blair suggests tackling concerns about illegal immigration by introducing biometric ID as a precondition for accessing work and public services."

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2022/may/13/tony-blair-tells-keir-starmer-to-drop-woke-politics-and-focus-on-economy-labour

[ianr]

Why do you say 'obsessed'?

[JohnL]

He used to talk a lot about this when he was PM

https://diginomica.com/look-i-could-be-wrong-about-tony-blair-makes-case-digital-id-scheme-again-post-covid-19-world

http://migreurop.org/article1150.html

https://www.nbcnews.com/id/wbna6332417

there's a lot over the years

[JohnL]

Not condoning or condemning biometric ID - but I keep seeing these articles for 20 years

[Spartacus]

Maybe this is how it will happen

Just like cats and dogs we will be identifiable in the future

https://www.bbc.com/news/business-61008730