Huguenot Posted April 5, 2013 Share Posted April 5, 2013 Vicanna - "Would you apply the same 'logic' to voting? Sounds like you would."No Vicanna, that's slightly dim isn't it? A petition about whether pies should have sides does not have equivalency with electing your representative in parliament.Parliament, you may have noticed, governs the country. Petitions about pies don't.I congratulate you on conquering the heretofore unachievable challenge of merging your brain with a loofah.Every couple of seconds mate.... BREATHE. Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/30903-crackpot-petition-repository/page/2/#findComment-632459 Share on other sites More sharing options...
alice Posted April 5, 2013 Share Posted April 5, 2013 well people who cannot vote could be said to be disempoweredso people who vote are empoweredbut nothing changesthe vote as conso maybe v. has a point Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/30903-crackpot-petition-repository/page/2/#findComment-632478 Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Minkey Posted April 5, 2013 Share Posted April 5, 2013 "Presumably there are a number of people on benefits who manage it."No - this amount is a direct result of the welfare changes that came about this month. It's yet to be discovered whether we/they can or not. The ?53 pw represents the impact the changes will have on the ?71pw the claimant in question was receiving. There's a few other caps and reductions which are about to come into force at the same time.The ?53 pw is the amount left to pay for stuff like food, gas, electric, water, clothes. With this type of benefit now capped to rise by no more than 1% per annum, the pinch will be felt harder the more the benefit falls behind the rise in the cost of living. Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/30903-crackpot-petition-repository/page/2/#findComment-632480 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Huguenot Posted April 6, 2013 Share Posted April 6, 2013 I think you may have missed Vicanna's point alice - he was simply saying that if I didn't believe in the petitions that I therefore didn't believe in general elections.It was nonsense and he was trying to get a rise.You seem to be making a completely separate point that elections are a con. I suspect that may be something to do with what your expectations are.Governments have very little room to 'change' anything. Most of the budgets are committed years in advance, the bank balance is desperately tight. Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/30903-crackpot-petition-repository/page/2/#findComment-632541 Share on other sites More sharing options...
LadyDeliah Posted April 7, 2013 Share Posted April 7, 2013 ...and their corporate paymasters wouldn't let them. Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/30903-crackpot-petition-repository/page/2/#findComment-632808 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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