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Vicanna - "Would you apply the same 'logic' to voting? Sounds like you would."


No Vicanna, that's slightly dim isn't it? A petition about whether pies should have sides does not have equivalency with electing your representative in parliament.


Parliament, you may have noticed, governs the country. Petitions about pies don't.


I congratulate you on conquering the heretofore unachievable challenge of merging your brain with a loofah.


Every couple of seconds mate.... BREATHE.

"Presumably there are a number of people on benefits who manage it."


No - this amount is a direct result of the welfare changes that came about this month. It's yet to be discovered whether we/they can or not. The ?53 pw represents the impact the changes will have on the ?71pw the claimant in question was receiving. There's a few other caps and reductions which are about to come into force at the same time.


The ?53 pw is the amount left to pay for stuff like food, gas, electric, water, clothes. With this type of benefit now capped to rise by no more than 1% per annum, the pinch will be felt harder the more the benefit falls behind the rise in the cost of living.

I think you may have missed Vicanna's point alice - he was simply saying that if I didn't believe in the petitions that I therefore didn't believe in general elections.


It was nonsense and he was trying to get a rise.


You seem to be making a completely separate point that elections are a con. I suspect that may be something to do with what your expectations are.


Governments have very little room to 'change' anything. Most of the budgets are committed years in advance, the bank balance is desperately tight.

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