Petition to save No. 12 Bus Route

[Nigello]

I think it is a bit of a pain to change, but less of a pain than not having any bus at all. Maybe the money saved could one day be used to fund minibuses to supplement the bigger/longer routes, ie. providing a cross-borough or cross-neighbourhood route.

[ken78]

i see poor old cauli is at it again will this FOOL ever learn .... i don't think so, come on cauli STOP having a go at every one TRY IT YOU MIGHT MAKE A FRIEND

[Rockets]

The more strikes there are the worse the financial situation for TFL becomes and raises the likelihood of more cuts being necessary. The last strikes in March are estimated to have cost TFL ?13m so the new batch that kicked off today will deepen the hole TFL finds itself in.

[Bic Basher]

BlueLeaf Wrote:

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> It looks like it will be replaced by 148 according

> to this article:

> https://www.mylondon.news/lifestyle/travel/london-

> bus-routes-tfl-plans-24107649

>

> "After Camberwell Road, Medlar Street, the 148

> would turn left and follow the old route of the 12

> to Dulwich Library instead of terminating at

> Camberwell Green"

>

> So we will still have the route in some form

> though I wonder what the frequency will be.

Exactly the same as the 12 is now, every 12 minutes.

[Spartacus]

It's more about where the 12 goes to and from now in central London.

As someone mentioned, late at night its not convenient to change at the elephant and some users feel safer getting a single bus all the way.

But think on, what will happen when normal working patterns resume in a short time, not enough buses is my opinion...

[gabys1st]

ay, it may be more effective to complete

> the official survey:

> [haveyoursay.tfl.gov.uk]...... EASIER to EMAIL this addy rather than go thru hoops to sign TFL's petition

[NewWave]

gabys1st Wrote:

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> ay, it may be more effective to complete

> > the official survey:

> > ...... EASIER to EMAIL this addy rather than go

> thru hoops to sign TFL's petition

But signing the petition logs your objection..An email probably wont even get read by anyone with any influence.

[NewWave]

Spartacus Wrote:

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> It's more about where the 12 goes to and from now

> in central London.

>

> As someone mentioned, late at night its not

> convenient to change at the elephant and some

> users feel safer getting a single bus all the

> way.

>

I sometimes finish work at 10.30pm and as a lone woman in my 60's I really feel much safer getting on a bus at Oxford Circus by my work-place and getting off at Dulwich Library (ie:near home)

I wouldn't feel particularly safe having to wait for a connecting bus in Elephant and Castle, Camberwell etc etc at gone 11pm.

[Rockets]

https://www.southwarknews.co.uk/news/southwark-labour-petition-against-bus-cuts-put-forward-by-labour-mayor-khan/

SOUTHWARK LABOUR PETITION AGAINST BUS CUTS PUT FORWARD BY LABOUR MAYOR KHAN - who did he put it forward to himself?

It seems the petition linked at the top of this thread got considerably more signatures than Southwark Labour's one.

[Spartacus]

Ah so according to the Labour Council, its all the tories fault and absolutely nothing to do with the Mayor 🤔

Politics out of running London is what's needed

[legalalien]

For anyone interested a big chunk of last night’s Council Assembly meeting covered bus cuts and the number 12 specifically, starting with a couple of deputations and then moving on to a debate. Inevitably some bits on the “central govt or TfL” fault issue but importantly the council is very much against the cuts. The meeting’s available on the Southwark YouTube channel.