froggy Posted December 16, 2022 Share Posted December 16, 2022 Has anyone else noticed the poor dog barking continuously on Donkey Alley (I assume it's kept outside of its house)? I've heard it before during the day and was concerned then (assume it's left outside when the owners go to work?), but surely in these temperatures this is abuse?Anyone has any insight?Thanks! Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/319644-dog-left-outside-barking-all-day-donkey-alley/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
Castleton Posted December 16, 2022 Share Posted December 16, 2022 In this weather, It's certainly abuse.Try RSPCA or Southwark Dog Warden Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/319644-dog-left-outside-barking-all-day-donkey-alley/#findComment-1606387 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mabaker Posted December 19, 2022 Share Posted December 19, 2022 I walked down Donkey Alley about lunchtime this morning and saw two council workers peering through a hole in the fence where the barking dog is. They told me that they were from the noise nuisance team and had received complaints about the barking. The dog at this time was proving the point by barking for England. I confirmed to them that yes, the dog barks a lot, even when I'm walking past at night. So anyway, looks like they're taking it seriously. Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/319644-dog-left-outside-barking-all-day-donkey-alley/#findComment-1606681 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sue Posted December 19, 2022 Share Posted December 19, 2022 I walked down Donkey Alley about lunchtime this morning and saw two council workers peering through a hole in the fence where the barking dog is. They told me that they were from the noise nuisance team and had received complaints about the barking. The dog at this time was proving the point by barking for England. I confirmed to them that yes, the dog barks a lot, even when I'm walking past at night. So anyway, looks like they're taking it seriously. There are two separate issues here:The cruelty of leaving a dog outside for long periods of time in sub zero temperaturesandThe annoyance the dog's barking is causing to nearby residentsDoes anybody know whether council workers from the noise control team would liaise with appropriate council teams or external organisations about the cruelty aspect?Because it seems to me that the dog should be taken away from whoever owns it, if what has been posted on this thread is accurate.It isn't just the noise aspect which needs to be taken seriously.It's also rather sad (in the original meaning of the word) if people nearby have gone to the trouble of contacting the council about the noisy barking, but haven't contacted (say) the RSPCA about the neglected dog.I really hope I am wrong about that. Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/319644-dog-left-outside-barking-all-day-donkey-alley/#findComment-1606735 Share on other sites More sharing options...
froggy Posted December 22, 2022 Author Share Posted December 22, 2022 I walked down Donkey Alley about lunchtime this morning and saw two council workers peering through a hole in the fence where the barking dog is. They told me that they were from the noise nuisance team and had received complaints about the barking. The dog at this time was proving the point by barking for England. I confirmed to them that yes, the dog barks a lot, even when I'm walking past at night. So anyway, looks like they're taking it seriously. There are two separate issues here:The cruelty of leaving a dog outside for long periods of time in sub zero temperaturesandThe annoyance the dog's barking is causing to nearby residentsDoes anybody know whether council workers from the noise control team would liaise with appropriate council teams or external organisations about the cruelty aspect?Because it seems to me that the dog should be taken away from whoever owns it, if what has been posted on this thread is accurate.It isn't just the noise aspect which needs to be taken seriously.It's also rather sad (in the original meaning of the word) if people nearby have gone to the trouble of contacting the council about the noisy barking, but haven't contacted (say) the RSPCA about the neglected dog.I really hope I am wrong about that. Agreed. In fact I called the RSPCA to report it but (after asking me if the dog had shelter, and what condition it was in - which I could not answer with certainty) they advised me to raise a noise complaint with Southwark who (they said) would contact them if they witnessed cruelty to an animal.My feeling is that Southwark's noise complaint team didn't agree though, or at least they were a bit more cautious.Constant barking from a dog left outside in freezing temperatures in itself doesn't seem to qualify as cruelty to the RSPCA. Unless someone can provide further evidence of cruelty to the RSPCA (I can't as I can only hear it), it's a noise complaint to them and they won't investigate. Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/319644-dog-left-outside-barking-all-day-donkey-alley/#findComment-1606955 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Penguin68 Posted December 22, 2022 Share Posted December 22, 2022 Constant barking from a dog left outside in freezing temperatures... Dogs are bred from wolves, who certainly know how to cope with freezing temperatures. Guard dogs are often left outside (with an open kennel shelter) - and are able to move from shelter into a space being guarded. This is not actually active cruelty. Certainly house pets left on their own may bark, but may also be able to get into shelter (if they're outside) when they choose to. Indeed, if your garden is secure, allowing dogs to get into it, if they also do have shelter, is probably less cruel than locking them up in a house, with no access to the outside.Which doesn't make constant barking any less annoying to neighbours. Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/319644-dog-left-outside-barking-all-day-donkey-alley/#findComment-1606963 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jules-and-Boo Posted December 22, 2022 Share Posted December 22, 2022 how sillydogs can get hypothermia and frostbite - it's not at all ok to say they are bred from wolves and so can stand freezing temperatures.of course some dogs have thicker fur but they do not have fur on their paws and dogs can - and do - freeze to death. Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/319644-dog-left-outside-barking-all-day-donkey-alley/#findComment-1607001 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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