Don't give Southwark Council any new ideas...

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[Earl Aelfheah]

"According to those living in the area, the bollard bombardment is the result of problem parking outside the primary school. Parents were said to have been pulling onto the pavement, parking two abreast, blocking driveways and then abusing residents who challenged them.

The school is said to have asked mum and dads to park carefully. But despite wardens being deployed on the area, it is only since the bollards went in that the errant parking was stopped."

https://www.birminghammail.co.uk/news/midlands-news/55-bollards-been-installed-a38-25897399

[teddyboy23]

What a load of bollards

[malumbu]

Perhaps have a thread about selfish parents who park irresponsibly - I can sleep soundly, can we all?

If course the current government doesn't want to demonise motorists, as it their God given right to not give a fig about others.

Disclaimer this is all my own work and not plagiarised from LCC, the council etc

[heartblock]

These bollards must be a hazard to anyone with visual impairment.

They could have planted trees near the road, so not impeding pedestrians - but instead these ugly bollards - just reminded me of Southwark's inability to make the street architecture more attractive and it's inconsiderate attitude to disability in terms of travel/transport and the main mode of transport in EDulwich - walking. I suppose if it was in EDulwich there would be the additional hazard of discarded Lime bikes and e-scooters.

[malumbu]

But rather than dredge up your views about Southwark what about selfish drivers/parents? There are plenty in SE22

And as the title is poorly descriptive and I don't click on links with no explanation of why I need to, can someone tell me a bit more eg where this is?

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East Dulwich Grove is daily polluted and has to put up with pavement and poor parking by selfish parents driving private school kids to JAGs/Alleyn's during term time - but Southwark and the Schools have done zilch/ nothing/ zero to make this issue go away - in fact is worse than I have ever known across 35 years of living here - now with added terrible coach parking by both private and new state school.

Satisfied?

[malumbu]

I expect Southwark and GLA are pretty big on sustainable school travel. Some of the schools too eg Bessemer Grange and Ivydale. Did my bit as a parent to discourage unsociable parking. Some parents are so resistive. Feel it is worse in the private schools but know that parents can be even more entitled.

[Earl Aelfheah]

These bollards must be a hazard to anyone with visual impairment.

 

Unlike double parked cars

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As usual your assumption that I think double parked cars a a ‘good thing’ is in your brain and not in mine. Yes, discourage illegal and dangerous parking - I would be very pleased if Southwark and the private schools enacted that on ED Grove.

The issue is that just like Southwark Council’s bumbling and ineffective changes to roads and junctions across the years, these bollards are ugly, dangerous for anyone with a visual impairment and a poorly thought out option.

Street trees by the side of the road, would have been attractive, green and not posed a danger to pedestrians.

The ugly barriers and street furniture barricades of the Village junction and the continued messy confusion of the Townley Rd, ED Grove crossing (designed by a mate of the Council and a private gated road enthusiast) show a lack of any real planning or thinking.

I suppose it’s all about putting one’s career on track for a highly paid job with a private construction company or the greasy pole of politics.

[malumbu]

The reason for this is selfish drivers. The response may be disproportionate but it's due to drivers. I don't doubt that you are just as angry at selfish drivers but our starting point is that rather than Southwark Council. As said my view is national government needs to change hearts and minds

[heartblock]

Change hearts and minds..... sounds like a quote from Rish!

No - have kids going to local schools that are accessible by public transport, walking and cycling - and close private schools and put that charitable money into excellent local state education.

Actions matter - not words. (and actions that actually have a wider impact - rather than benefitting the richest few..)

[malumbu]

?? I'm talking about entitled motorists which is a sociatal issue ie for our government. The early Blair government was prepared to do this, but after the unholy alliance of farmers and hauliers, the 2000 fuel protests, no government has prepared to take this on. I can talk hearts and minds, but I could also quote Not the Nine o'clock News, grab them by the goolies, twist them right off... Anyway, some meaty discussion

[ken78]

great idea and would stop cycling and scooters going on the paving

[heartblock]

The early Blair Government was prepared to do what? What actual practical endeavours was it really going to do? Propped up by Murdoch... what do you think?

The only way to stop polluting the planet is to stop multi-national companies making short term profit and as long as the public blindly like zombies believe the **** they are shovelled daily.. fossil fuels will be dug, consumerism encouraged and light palliative policy put in place so we all carry on thinking that recycling our plastic makes any difference at all.

[malumbu]

The early Blair government was pro public transport. The 2000 fuel protests changed all that. A fact. Also a fact that since then governments of all sides don't want to upset motorists.