East Dulwich Grove traffic jam

[Huggers]

Yesterday afternoon and this morning the four? Way traffic control system around Townley and Greendale had traffic jammed in every direction for invisible roadworks. It looks like the lights give equal Priority to each road’s turn irrespective of volume coming from that direction. The queue turning left into EDG from Red Post Hill- already held up by a badly placed bus stop practically on the junction-, goes all the way back to Sunray Avenue.

[Guest]

There are Thames Water works opposite the junction of Honor Oak Road on London Road (where the Esso Petrol station) is located, creating huge tailbacks up to the Horniman's Museum and then back along London Road and along Lordship Lane. This may be contributing to longer waits from the South Circular onto Lordship Lane.

[Penguin68]

Thames Water closes off the South Circular (wholly or in part) every 18 months or so by the Horniman - and have done so for years - they even, once , closed it off for several weeks/ months to replace (!) the main. They are wholly and, I would argue, close to criminally inept in their works here. That the infrastructure should fail is, of course, inevitable at some stage, that it should fail every 18 months is something entirely different. TfL - whose road it is - should be fining them for obstruction.

[Huggers]

the jam is definitely caused by the East Dulwich Grove lights though because the entry from Lordship into EDGrove is usually clear flowing until it hits the queue - which is then given only a minute or two on a green light and fails to progress.

[legalalien]

I think the townley / edg temporary lights and resultant tailbacks are entirely separate to south circular and LL issues (I say this as we drove back from Bromley late afternoon and had a clear run until we hit the DV/ EDG queue, having chosen to avoid traffic in Townley. Seems like a minor hole in the road at the corner of EDG and Greendale is the reason for the lights, the cordoning off and temp lights seem like overkill and are causing unintended consequences, I saw a couple of motorbikes and bicycles choosing to zoom up the pavement on EDG to avoid the queue, plus one cyclist deciding to take his life into his hands and overtake the queue to the right (heading towards LL, on the wrong side of the road heading into traffic heading towards HH, no lights. Crazy,)

[Bic Basher]

The Forest Hill Thames Water works by the petrol station were completed today.

[Sue]

Roadworks between the Horniman and Forest Hill station were causing huge traffic jams last week.

Does anyone know if they are still there?

ETA: In case anyone else wants to know - they aren't!

Edited January 31, 2023 by Sue

[Rockets]

I think they have gone now.