Monster dogs tearing the sh!t out of each other in Nunhead

[northlondoner]

Have been pondering a move to Nunhead and therefore been scoping out the area around the charming village green. Impressed by the friendliness of people, the quality of the housing stock and the general feel of calm. Until yesterday (7th June ). Two huge dogs on the Green seized upon a third and commenced tearing the crap out of each other in the most blood curdling battle. In the children's play area FFS

The owners were not able to separate these beasts which held each other in the " death grip" for what seemed around ten minutes. A good many people came out to assist ( I cowered sone distance away). The creatures were eventually separated - and looked pretty torn up.

Shortly afterwards other dog owners were on the green with dogs running loose. My question is: Nunhead Green area : charming up and coming area or dangerous place to be avoided ? Not interested in the pro forma " it's not Fido's fault " argument - just trying to understand the nature of the area.

[tl]

I shouldn't think this would be a regular occurance. I travel there regularly to visit the fishmonger, baker, butcher and chemist; I have never seen anything similar. I don't live in the immediate vicinity. I live south of Nunhead cemetary and north of Camberwell new cemetary, a very peaceful area (no pun intended) handy for the park, lots of friendly neighbours and big victorian houses. Commuting options from Nunhead, Brockley or Peckham Rye.

[stacey-lyn]

Highly unusual.

And don't know why they'd be in the children's area.

There are 2 parts to the Green - one is the dog walk part where you can close the gate.

We take ours there almost every day and most dog owners are responsible and effective and normally use the dog part. There is rarely more than one or 2 other dogs and if there is, generally these dogs & owners know each other and the dogs are having a play - but certainly not tearing each other apart. We've seen the occasional 'rough' dogs there before as you do anywhere but have never seen anything as you describe.

We were there yesterday - what time was this?

In any event, to answer your question, this isolated incident certainly doesn't represent the entire neighbourhood. Like the incidents of violence and criminal behaviour (eg muggings, motorcycle burnings etc.) that you read about on this forum in ED aren't a general representation of ED.

[Louisa]

All this talk of Nunhead being gentrified. I remember the place having a village feel years before any gentrification allegedly took place, and if I'm being honest it was actually a much nicer semi rural location and one of the best parts of Peckham even then. It's only in the last 10/15 years that the area has started to deteriorate, but fortunately many of the old shops which give it this villagey feel are still around. Lets hope it's changing for the better again with the close proximity of two overground lines.

Louisa.

[stacey-lyn]

deteriorate?

Huh?

How so?

[Annette Curtain]

I actually agree with Louisa (fancy that) here. Though it's not deteriorated, but maybe stagnated sideways a little. It seems to have retained much of the good stuff and not fallen into the over gentrification mode.

When I first moved to london many years ago it was the one place where I thought "I could live here" and bar a few spammy flat developments, I still could.

As for dogs fighting, then any dogs at it is quite scary. The noise and the apparent lack of control is shocking, whatever the breed. Sadly not many owners know how to separate a dog in full swing & i've seen normally bright smart people doing stupid things to try and split them. That in its self creates high drama and risks personal injury.

[Otta]

"Village Green"? WTF

[northlondoner]

Yes that was the scary thing . Some snapping and snarling went on in the dog area. The owner of one dog took his animal into the children's section. Moments later one of the huge dogs tore away from its owner leapt the divide and started savaging the dog in the children's zone - chased by its owner. The third monster dog soon broke away from where it had been tied up - leapt the divide and joined the affray. My worry was that if that had been a child being attacked no one could have done a thing.

This was about 1345 Stacey.

Like I said it feels really nice around there - but couldn't help thinking what would've happened if my friend and her five year old daughter had been in that play area.

[Louisa]

I agree Annette, the stagnation you refer to has become more apparent in the last 10 years or so. It's kept many of its traditional shops and old faces, but lots of the unique character of the place has disappeared and I don't for once put that down to any gentrification, because, I don't actually believe it has gentrified really. It's still staunchly working class overall, but there's this grubby feel about the place, it's almost as if the grottyness of parts of Peckham has transferred south and eastwards and despite increased house prices, because the area is sandwiched between gentrified ED and gentrifying Peckham and Brockley it almost feels lost.

Louisa.

[UncleBen]

Huge gang problem as shares borders with lewisham. High crime. 2nd rate area.

[Annette Curtain]

True Louisa, there's permanent Wednesday feel in Nunhead

A grubby manilla mirage, lost in its own anonymity, a cemetery of the past

Nothingness upon nothingness, death row for dormice, discarded chicken box

A torn-up not so lucky "lucky dip" and a white dog shit that goes unnoticed

Oh sweetness, this is sounding like the lyrics to a Smiths song.

*flops into nan's inherited 1940's sofa & wails "nunhead" into a bell jar*

[lizbells6]

I witnessed a vicious dog fight on Hampstead Heath once.

From this I deduced that the area was full of dangerous low life and gangs, rubbish strewn streets and crap shops so I didn't move there.

[Jeremy]

I think this is a bit of an unfair attack on Nunhead. It may feel a little down-at-heel compared to some of the neighbouring areas, but the main road has smartened up a bit and feels more buzzy than it did 5-10 years ago. Some of the residential streets have a nice feel to them too.

There are plenty of dodgy looking characters with crap dogs in Dulwich Park too.

[Foxhelp]

I have to disagree with you there Jezza. There are a few dodgy looking characters with crap dogs in Dulwich Park not plenty. Rather walk round there than vere off of the main road in Nunhead, rather you than me.

[Annette Curtain]

No but really, I ACTUALLY LIKE NUNHEAD

(for the record)

[Jeremy]

My point was that dodgy geezers and their mutts are not exclusively a Nunhead problem. Would be a good idea for the OP to check it out a few times before forming an opinion.

[northlondoner]

lizbells6 Wrote:

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> I witnessed a vicious dog fight on Hampstead Heath

> once.

>

> From this I deduced that the area was full of

> dangerous low life and gangs, rubbish strewn

> streets and crap shops so I didn't move there.

Calm yourself. Hampstead is a famously affluent area. Nunhead's character is less well known. A request for more information is therefore to be expected. Foolish comparison.

[Annette Curtain]

This is one possibility:

OP is sniffing out a property and the owners won't budge on price

OP posts as above and creates a Nunhead-going-to-the-dogs vibe

OP goes back to vendor

"Well, i'd like it but the ear on the ground says...."

OP shows vendor local forum thread

Vendor thinks "yeah, now I KNOW I want out"

OP offer is accepted

Job done.

[northlondoner]

Aargh. My plot revealed. Damn you Curtain....

[stacey-lyn]

Foxhelp Wrote:

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Rather walk round there

> than vere off of the main road in Nunhead, rather

> you than me.

Seriously? FFS.

Let's just see. . .

recent ED recap: muggings, break-ins, thefts from homes/sheds/gardens, handbags stolen in pubs, motorbikes set ablaze, bikes stolen, atm scams, assault in Dulwich Park to jogger. . .

-v-

recent Nunhead recap: happy clappy church, japanese knotweed & the kujo v white fang epic courtesy of northlondoner

Yeah, Foxhelp. Nunhead is so badass. Best steer clear.

[Foxhelp]

I already do and Peckham

[Annette Curtain]

northlondoner Wrote:

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> Aargh. My plot revealed. Damn you Curtain....

Miss Marple meets Grayson Perry me !

*polishes knuckles*

[alice]

number of crimes committed in april 2013

nunhead 6

east dulwich 9

dulkwich village 11

according to http://maps.met.police.uk/

[alice]

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[Jimi Henrdrix07]

Can we have the owners and dogs side of the story please?