Loading bay, corner of Shawbury Road and Lordship Lane

[Boscombe]

A word of warning: I have just been given a parking ticket here, having nipped in to M&S for no more than 15 mins. The loading bay sign still says '1 hour'. I caught up with the traffic warden and he told me that they now 'observe' the vehicle for 2 mins and if you don't reappear in that time you will be given a ticket. I objected and he said, "it would be OK if you were a van, but not a car." Which will be the basis of my appeal - how do you know I'm not using my car as a van? You can't be making arbitrary decisions.

First time I have been caught out here. And before the anti-car lobby jump on me, I do know that loading bays are meant for loading. This is just an fyi, because having lived here since 1998, that is the first time I have been given a ticket for parking there. Sigh.

[Rockets]

I think there was a thread on this same loading bay a while ago and where someone had experienced the same thing. Loading bays are always a bit of an easy one for parking wardens as the rules are not crystal clear - and certainly no reason for the warden to presume that just because you aren't in a van that you aren't loading or unloading. Being there for 15 minutes though does probably weaken the argument because you are not allowed to park or wait in a loading bay but surely you have to park to be able to load.....

I think that bay is rich pickings for the wardens.....

[ianr]

The London Environment and Traffic Adjudicators "key cases" for "Loading exemptions" https://www.londontribunals.gov.uk/eat/key-cases?field_subjects_value=Loading%2FUnloading+exemptions&combine= lists several cases, the most recent of which, Bosworth et al, is the product of a special panel of adudicators deciding seven cases after reviewing the current judicial authorities and coming to some general conclusions, including:

"g. The process of shopping is not loading. Most supermarket shoppers undertaking their weekly shop have heavy and bulky items to carry from the shop - normally because a large number of individual small items are heavy in total. In our view, such a motorist would not be entitled to use a loading bay while the items were selected and then paid for. Were it otherwise yellow lines and loading bays would effectively be turned into shoppers’ car parks - something which, in the Panel’s judgement, was not what the bays and lines were intended for. However, once the goods have been selected and paid for, it would, in our view, be within the purposes of the bay or the exemption for a vehicle to be brought round and parked whilst moving the purchased items into the vehicle."

I see I've actually been here before: 

PS I wanted simply to provide the URL but I couldn't find any way of circumventing the wretched system's inclination.  What have I missed?

Edited October 17, 2023 by ianr
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[teddyboy23]

The loading bays as far as I know, are meant for lorries and vans making deliveries to local businesses .I've seen loads of cars over the years being given tickets.ive seen people park in loading bays and then put a disable badge on the dash thinking it's  OK