Granville House 61 Overhill Road

[Exoticaman]

This is Granville House which was once 61 Overhill Road, the 'twin' house which was known as Springfield Mount is still standing as 63 Overhill. Does anyone on the forum have any further information or images of this house build around 1870, probably by Joseph Tall, a constructor of concrete houses. Jim

[Exoticaman]

Here's the original image on a postcard.

[Guest]

What is it particularly that you want to know?  Is it the house you are interested in or the people that lived there or whether Joseph Tall was involved in it's construction?

[Exoticaman]

Any information at all. I have been researching Joseph Tall for some time, at one point his son Joseph Mingay Tall was living at number 63 then known as Springfield Mount. I believe both houses were constructed with concrete for which father and son both held patents for this method of construction. I'd also be interested to discover when it was pulled down and why...

[ianr]

Have you seen the annotation, "Hit by V1 destroyed" on the the other side of the card at https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/235476138233?  There are several online sites detailing WW!! London bomb damage, and at least one ?authoritaive map,  that you could check.  There's been mention here previously.

Edited March 22, 2024 by ianr

[Sue]

Sorry if off topic, but is this house in any way related to the "concrete house" on Lordship Lane which was fairly recently renovated?

It is very near it?

Wiki link

[ed_pete]

15 hours ago, Exoticaman said:

Any information at all. I have been researching Joseph Tall for some time, at one point his son Joseph Mingay Tall was living at number 63 then known as Springfield Mount. I believe both houses were constructed with concrete for which father and son both held patents for this method of construction. I'd also be interested to discover when it was pulled down and why...

It could be worth contacting the Local History Group within the Dulwich Society - they have a number of people that have undertaken research into area and may be able to assist.

Recent local history enquiries (2) (dulwichsociety.com)

[Exoticaman]

Thanks for recent replies, I was unaware of the additional information that was available alongside the front of the postcard and this has added to my files. In reply to Sue, there is a link to the Concrete House on Lordship Lane. Charles Drake who built it, was previously employed by Joseph Tall. Tall lived in various other concrete houses in the vicinity and was probably responsible for their construction although there are no records to show this. There is a terrace of 5 concrete houses on Belvoir Road which face a further pair on the south side. Both Joseph Tall senior and his son Joseph Mingay Tall were living there in 1881 and JM Tall was at 1 Belvoir Road in 1873 when Drake moved into his newly built house 300 yards away....

[ianr]

You can search https://www.britishnewspaperarchive.co.uk/ and often see enough OCR  of articles found to get a good idea of whether they contain something of interest, though to see them in full a subscription is needed.   I found several that definitely were when searching for 'Joseph Tall' but don't have a current subscription.

[Pugwash]

Local History Library in Southwark  has lots of information.

[Moovart]

https://dulwichfestival.co.uk/event/concrete-and-clay/?mc_cid=3d6c0c4c30&mc_eid=9ffe7a527b

 

The person doing this walk around Belvoir road and Dawson's heights for the Dulwich Festival might know unless this research is for part of this walk 🤔