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[????]

Utter dire stuff yet again beaten by a crap team with no confidence 1-0, I bet all the bottom 3 wish they still had us to play....I think we'll stay up probably but I can't see the Fat walrus surviving under any circumstances now. And good riddance to him, and to be frank, hopefully half of his shite signings with him. I can't see anything but a big struggle for us next year without a major investments and new ideas, a shite bag of a season....

[maxxi]

Would rather struggle without BFS than be safe in top 15 with him.

Oh, And Nolan can f*** off too.

[????]

.I don't think we'd be safe with him Maxxi.I think we'll get relegated! Everyone's sussed out his one dimensional tactics, the players are completely demoralised with them, the fans will be on his back from game 1, the 37 points that we'll probably stay up with this year would normally have us relegated. Listening to other teams players on MOTD last night saying 'you know what you are going to get with West Ham" like we are foooking Wimbledon in the 80s is depressing beyond belief for our club and its traditions. I want the fat turd out today - he's a sh1tbag as a human as well as manager.

[Otta]

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> Listening to other teams players on MOTD last night saying 'you know what

> you are going to get with West Ham" like we are

> foooking Wimbledon in the 80s is depressing beyond

> belief for our club and its traditions. I want the

> fat turd out today - he's a sh1tbag as a human as

> well as manager.

Yeah even I cringed when I heard that, and thought your blood would be boiling.

[maxxi]

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> Listening to other teams

> players on MOTD last night saying 'you know what

> you are going to get with West Ham"

And Hansen (again) saying "if you ask them would they rather play football the way it should be played in the Championship or play THAT way in the Premier league, they'll take Premier league every time" Then - almost as if he's starting to get it - "but I'm not a West Ham fan."

Agree we wouldn't be safe with Allardyce but that was his usp for Sullivan & Gold and my fear is they'll put this year down to Carroll's injury and a mistake in the transfer market and a bit of bad luck and think he is STILL the best tw*t for the job.

[Otta]

To be fair to the pundits, I think they have to be pretty careful what they say, especially with someone lime BFS who'd have his Lawers threatening legal action if they dared slate him.

[Mick Mac]

Time for Gerrard to stand up. And be counted.

[red devil]

Mick Mac Wrote:

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> Time for Gerrard to stand up. And be counted.

Would that be standing up after he fell over?...

[Otta]

The slip meant nothing, his touch gave it away and I don't think he'd have rescued it anyway, but he bloody tried to make amends.

S'pose I have to take hat off to Chelsea for doing what they do well (parking a double decker bendy bus), but gutted. Didn't really expect a win but really hoped we'd get the draw.

Fingers crossed City will drop 2 points now!!!

[Mick Mac]

I have felt for years that Gerrard is overrated and today I felt that he didn't show up. I questioned his performance recently against Sunderland when they came back at Liverpool and I think he could have done more today Liverpools big players didn't turn up with Coutino being the exception. Edited to add Stirling and Skirtel were also up for it

[Mick Mac]

Chelsea on the other hand. Catenaccio bores. :)

[Mick Mac]

And how much did Liverpool miss Henderson today. A lot maybe.

[Millhaven]

Gerrard has been pony for about 4 or 5 years! His mythical status this year is embarrassing.

[Otta]

I disagree. I think Rogers has found a great position for him.

Did everyone slate Man City when Chelsea did exactly the same to them?

[Millhaven]

Mick Mac Wrote:

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> And how much did Liverpool miss Henderson today. A

> lot maybe.

What Liverpool were missing today was a backbone. They have been poor in defence for ages but they have just managed to outscore their opposition. As soon as they came up against a solid defence or tatician they were always going to be found out.

[LouiseC]

To slate Gerrard is just insulting, he's been the backbone of Liverpool for such a long time, completely out of order to criticise due to one human error , slipping over...that will probably haunt him forever if they don't win the league (which admittedly is looking unlikely now). Chelsea tactically as always played an amazing game but anyone who would prefer to see 6 defenders and time wasting win the league instead of great to watch attacking football that Man City and Liverpool play, doesn't really love the game.

[Mick Mac]

Otta Wrote:

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> I disagree. I think Rogers has found a great

> position for him.

>

> Did everyone slate Man City when Chelsea did

> exactly the same to them?

Liverpool have risen to every challenge since Christmas, incl Arsenal, United, City and all the others. It had to come to an end.

There may yet be another twist.

[LouiseC]

Otta, you are echoing my (also) die hard Liverpool supporter boyfriend, I sincerely hope you are both right!

[Millhaven]

Most football supporters just want their teams to win. Or certainly not lose. If you are going to play expansive football you had better make sure you score more goals than the opposition. It is anyone that thinks Chelsea or anyone else with any tatical nous is going to go up to Anfield and try and play attacking football just so you lot can be entertained that either doesn't know footbball or indeed doesn't love the game for what it is. If you want to be entertained go to the opera or the cinema.

[Mick Mac]

Louise. You are mistaken if you think Gerrards recent performances showed backbone. His penalty goals have shown great nerve but aside from that he has not shown leadership when pool have been under pressure from Sunderland, Norwich, City and again today.

[Millhaven]

Gerrard has been a great player and leader for Liverpool but has been a shadow of that player for years, certainly since Alonso left anyway.

[LouiseC]

I'm sorry Mick Mac, we have to agree to disagree on this one. The number of times Gerrard has pulled the team through with performance and leadership in my opinion has contributed to Liverpool finishing well above where we expected this season and many others. No player has a great game every match, look at Suarez who has been exemplary all season but the last three matches hasn't really done a lot. What SG does is inspire team performances and I genuinely think he is the heart of the club.

Millhaven, if you look at my comment, I did give credit to Chelsea for being fantastic tactically as always but in my opinion it just feels soulless. By my upset today of Liverpool losing and the awful behaviour of the Chelsea supporters at the game persisting with Hillsborough chants (when no other club does) I've broken my rule of not commenting on this thread...so signing off now!

[Millhaven]

Jesus wept! When all else fails bring up Hillsborough.

[LouiseC]

Yes, precisely why do they persist in bringing up Hillsborough, completely uncalled for isn't it....?

[Millhaven]

Just as uncalled for as Liverpool chanting about Munich when they are playing Manchester United, yes. But that is the tribalism of football for you.