Parkdrive Posted June 2, 2015 Share Posted June 2, 2015 Otta Wrote:-------------------------------------------------------> Jah Lush Wrote:> --------------------------------------------------> -----> > What Alan said and shouldn't you be rejoicing> in> > your victory rather than having a go at your> > rivals? > > > > Not like the players are setting an example.> > http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-london-329504> 05I would suggest the media and other who should know better stop being so sanctimonious. Step up Spurs legend Gazza. "I don't understand Spurs fans fuss over Wishere's comments. He loves Arsenal , so is bound to hate Spurs. Spurs fans should be more worried about embarrassed by Arsenal every season". Is what he did as bad as the neo Nazis at CSKA Fulham during their day out in Paris, is it as offensive as the songs sung by certain sections of Liverpool support about the Munich air disaster or certain sections of the Yanited support about Hillsborough? There is a plethora of items for the esteemed members of the press and media to be morally outraged by and they choose this? Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/35029-football-focus/page/201/#findComment-854471 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jah Lush Posted June 2, 2015 Share Posted June 2, 2015 Maybe you chose not to read all of my post all congratulating you and the Arsenal and Arsene Wenger in particular PD? I never mentioned Wilshire and I don't have a problem with what he did. Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/35029-football-focus/page/201/#findComment-854474 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Parkdrive Posted June 2, 2015 Share Posted June 2, 2015 Jah Lush Wrote:-------------------------------------------------------> Maybe you chose not to read all of my post all> congratulating you and the Arsenal and Arsene> Wenger in particular PD? I never mentioned> Wilshire and I don't have a problem with what he> did.I did Jah and this wasn't aimed at you, but at Otta. I find the over the top reaction to Wilshere's bit of nonsense laughable, especially coming from the torygraph, and the fact that despite the lambasting the rag gets on here, someone chooses to use it to highlight a so called issue. Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/35029-football-focus/page/201/#findComment-854478 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alan Medic Posted June 2, 2015 Share Posted June 2, 2015 You're very selective with which posts you choose to comment on PD. Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/35029-football-focus/page/201/#findComment-854554 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jah Lush Posted June 2, 2015 Share Posted June 2, 2015 Blatter has resigned. Hoorah! Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/35029-football-focus/page/201/#findComment-854565 Share on other sites More sharing options...
red devil Posted June 2, 2015 Share Posted June 2, 2015 Hoorah! indeed...it feels like when Thatch got the boot :) Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/35029-football-focus/page/201/#findComment-854570 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alan Medic Posted June 2, 2015 Share Posted June 2, 2015 He's not trying to get out of visiting the US which was on his 'schedule' soon, I wonder? Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/35029-football-focus/page/201/#findComment-854601 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Otta Posted June 2, 2015 Author Share Posted June 2, 2015 PD, I don't really care a jot about Wiltshire's chant, I was merely pointing out that a player doing it is only going to encourage others to do it. Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/35029-football-focus/page/201/#findComment-854620 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Parkdrive Posted June 3, 2015 Share Posted June 3, 2015 Otta Wrote:-------------------------------------------------------> PD, I don't really care a jot about Wiltshire's> chant, I was merely pointing out that a player> doing it is only going to encourage others to do> it.Encourage them to do what exactly, join in a chant they've been singing for years? A chant that contains the word shit? And that upsets your sensibilities does it? Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/35029-football-focus/page/201/#findComment-854787 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jah Lush Posted June 3, 2015 Share Posted June 3, 2015 Far be it for me to defend Wilshire but he was only playing to the gallery. Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/35029-football-focus/page/201/#findComment-854791 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Otta Posted June 3, 2015 Author Share Posted June 3, 2015 Oh FFS, no it doesn't upset my sensibilities. Jah said something about enjoying your victory rather than having a poke at your rivals, so I said well the players are having a dig at their rivals. That was it, I didn't criticise him, I didn't make a judgement, I merely pointed out that it had happened.And you think I'm the sensitive one? Pot and kettle mate. Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/35029-football-focus/page/201/#findComment-854797 Share on other sites More sharing options...
red devil Posted June 4, 2015 Share Posted June 4, 2015 Liverpool have signed Milner. Refreshing that he's turned down (presumably) more money and CL football for more game time...perhaps getting the captaincy too?... Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/35029-football-focus/page/201/#findComment-855325 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Otta Posted June 4, 2015 Author Share Posted June 4, 2015 That would put Henderson's nose out of joint, but who cares?Heart sank a bit when it was confirmed Rogers was staying. I want him to prove me wrong, and show that this was just a bad season ruined by transition and injuries. But I'm just not sure I have faith in him. Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/35029-football-focus/page/201/#findComment-855337 Share on other sites More sharing options...
red devil Posted June 4, 2015 Share Posted June 4, 2015 It was only a bad season compared to last season. Go back to the season before and there's only 1 point difference. Liverpool failed to replace Suarez and his goals. Utd also need a 20+ goalscorer who isn't injury prone, problem is there aren't many out there... Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/35029-football-focus/page/201/#findComment-855353 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Otta Posted June 4, 2015 Author Share Posted June 4, 2015 How long will Spurs keep Harry Kane if he has another good season???Don't think he'll be going anywhere this summer, but if he continues this sort of form and proves this season wasn't one off, then they'll find it hard to keep him next year. Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/35029-football-focus/page/201/#findComment-855358 Share on other sites More sharing options...
red devil Posted June 4, 2015 Share Posted June 4, 2015 Kane will definitely stay at Spurs this summer. I think what happens at Real Madrid will decide a lot of the big transfer business this summer, who they buy and then subsequently sell, with Barca's transfer embargo they are top of the food chain at the moment. If De Gea signs for them hopefully we'll get someone decent like Benzema in return... Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/35029-football-focus/page/201/#findComment-855367 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Otta Posted June 4, 2015 Author Share Posted June 4, 2015 Barca's transfer embargo has come at a good time for them. It's not like they're short of quality. Are they alloweds to sell?Benitez said he shouldn't comment too much about Sterling because he's another club's player, which is code for he'll soon be our player. With Rogers staying at the pool, Sterling looks certain to be off. A move somewhere like Real could be good for England (if he can get a game) and frankly I'd rather have a nice transfer fee than a player who doesn't want to play for his club. Just not sure I trust Rogers to spend said fee. Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/35029-football-focus/page/201/#findComment-855372 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mick Mac Posted June 4, 2015 Share Posted June 4, 2015 People here told me to let this drop many times, but it turns out that it's become part of FIFAs ability to buy the right end result. It also reflects badly on the FAI. Fifa paid the Football Association of Ireland 5m euros (?3.6m) to stop legal action after France controversially beat Ireland in a World Cup play-off.FAI chief executive John Delaney said he believed they had a case against Fifa after French striker Thierry Henry's handball in the 2009 match.Delaney said a "legitimate agreement" was made to drop the claim after Ireland missed the 2010 World Cup. Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/35029-football-focus/page/201/#findComment-855618 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alan Medic Posted June 5, 2015 Share Posted June 5, 2015 The FAI first requested that they be allowed to be the 33rd team at that WC, which Blatter made a joke about. Delaney said in his meeting with Blatter that he used some choice swear words to let him know what he thought of him.I doubt the FAI could have afforded a legal case and how could they seriously consider they might have won it? It's sport after all and shit happens. I'm not sure what the FAI should have done but up until recently Delaney was saying there was a confidential agreement in place with FIFA which he couldn't speak about. Yet now he does.As the money wasn't going into someone's pocket, as far as we know,what should a poor Football Association have done when it was a case of take it or nothing? I'm not sure but I'd have liked the offer to have been made public at the time it was made and FIFA told to stuff it. Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/35029-football-focus/page/201/#findComment-855667 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Parkdrive Posted June 5, 2015 Share Posted June 5, 2015 Mick Mac Wrote:-------------------------------------------------------> People here told me to let this drop many times,> but it turns out that it's become part of FIFAs> ability to buy the right end result. It also> reflects badly on the FAI. > > Fifa paid the Football Association of Ireland 5m> euros (?3.6m) to stop legal action after France> controversially beat Ireland in a World Cup> play-off.> FAI chief executive John Delaney said he believed> they had a case against Fifa after French striker> Thierry Henry's handball in the 2009 match.> Delaney said a "legitimate agreement" was made to> drop the claim after Ireland missed the 2010 World> Cup.Yes you should let it drop. If I remember rightly one of Irelands opponents during the qualify rounds had a stone wall penalty turned down and they, as far as I'm aware, didn't make the same amount of fuss the Irish did. We all know FIFA are toxic to the core, but FAI haven't exactly covered themselves in glory by taking their money. It gives the impression they are more interested in the money than the integrity of the beautiful game. Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/35029-football-focus/page/201/#findComment-855674 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Otta Posted June 5, 2015 Author Share Posted June 5, 2015 Agree with PD. Taking the money basically takes away any moral highground they MIGHT have had. Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/35029-football-focus/page/201/#findComment-855722 Share on other sites More sharing options...
red devil Posted June 5, 2015 Share Posted June 5, 2015 I'm surprised FIFA offered the hush money in the first place, there was no need to as there was no 'case', Henry cheated and got away with it, refs/linesmen make mistakes shocker... Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/35029-football-focus/page/201/#findComment-855734 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alan Medic Posted June 5, 2015 Share Posted June 5, 2015 In case you haven't noticed PD, Mick is talking about a new development not the handball incident.You still manage to talk about a penalty claim in some other game. That's history but this payment is a new story. Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/35029-football-focus/page/201/#findComment-855811 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Parkdrive Posted June 5, 2015 Share Posted June 5, 2015 Mick Mac Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > People here told me to let this drop many times, > but it turns out that it's become part of FIFAs > ability to buy the right end result. It also > reflects badly on the FAI. > > Fifa paid the Football Association of Ireland 5m > euros (?3.6m) to stop legal action after France > controversially beat Ireland in a World Cup > play-off. > FAI chief executive John Delaney said he believed > they had a case against Fifa after French striker > Thierry Henry's handball in the 2009 match. > Delaney said a "legitimate agreement" was made to > drop the claim after Ireland missed the 2010 World > Cup. Just in in case YOU hadn't noticed Declan, Handball incident clearly mentioned, so what are you claiming I've missed? I also make mention of the payment which is the new development, again what am I missing? Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/35029-football-focus/page/201/#findComment-855821 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alan Medic Posted June 5, 2015 Share Posted June 5, 2015 The two things are clearly intertwined.'Yes, you should let it drop' was the first thing you wrote. I explain it's a different story. Why should Mick 'let it drop'? THAT you missed. Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/35029-football-focus/page/201/#findComment-855833 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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